Can you help me?

[gracefrog]

Hey guys! I could really use some help! I have 2 snakes that I have no idea what they are! If I post pics do you think you can help me with them?
My 1st one I bought at petco, supposedly a normal ball, tho you can def tell hes not. Hes beautiful, and def not the dark colors of all the other balls Ive seen in the store since Ive had him. Another herp store says hes a yellow belly, but im not quite sure. Now just so you know, Ive read the amazingly detailed descriptions on here of morphs, fantastic by the way!!, But im still not able to guess!
Now my other one I just got a week ago, from a breeder, that says the new one is a pastel...but it doesnt have green eyes at all! And its def not a naormal either, hes like, olive fading into white with black....
What type of picks should I post that would help you guys determine, if you even can?
Any type of help would be awesome. I feel like I cant rest until I find out what my beautiful boys are! Lol!

[gracefrog]

BTW, the only pic I have posted are of my "yellow belly" last year, hes gotten much prettier since!

[jjmitchell]

I have seen posts of people finding pastels @ petco and such, and alot of people sell possible hets as normals to pet shops, but not nowing het for what.... anyway usually seems that most animals sold as normals are normals

[singingtothewheat]

post some pics here

[DeadLegs]

If your breeder told you it was a pastel, it most likely is from the description you give. I've got a beautiful little pastel girl that I bought from Kellysballs and she's got very dark kind of gray eyes so I don't know about green eyes being a determining factor. But, at the same time I'm new to this all as well so I could certainly be wrong.

[BPelizabeth]

Post the pics...I would love to see them.