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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    What exactly will happen:

    The species listed will be added to the list of injurious species in the Lacey Act.

    It will be illegal to import them, or transport them across state lines, without a special permit. The permit will only be granted to zoological institutions, educational institutions, etc.

    You will be able to breed and sell the animals within your own State, but NOT to buy or sell them across State lines. You will not be allowed to take your animals with you if you move from one State to another.
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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    You will not be allowed to take your animals with you if you move from one State to another.
    This will be the killer for us... we were hoping to buy land in Virginia or Pennsylvania sometime in the future... but how can we leave our babies behind???
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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    Don't, smuggle them in. I have never been stopped crossing the Oregon California border.

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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    I imagine this giant network of breeders supplying counterfeit sales receipts as people take their animals around the country.
    No one is watching how many animals are hatched, after all.
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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    Hello,

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrick13 View Post
    Don't, smuggle them in. I have never been stopped crossing the Oregon California border.
    Please take the time to read the rules of the site;

    Quote Originally Posted by Site T.O.S.
    8. No posts promoting illegal behavior will be tolerated, including but not limited to warez/pirating of copyrighted material, illegal drug or alcohol usage, and illegal ownership or trafficking of species.

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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hello,



    Please take the time to read the rules of the site;




    dr del
    Technically, he's not promoting doing anything illegal as it's not yet a law.


    And regardless, it would be the correct course of action

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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by panthercz View Post
    Sorry I was wrong it already states that you will *HAVE TO KILL ALL YOUR PYTHONS*, because the Lacey Act says so. It says that all importers or consignees to “promptly” export or destroy any prohibited animals or eggs at their own expense.
    A consignee is the owner for those that don't know...

    The s373 bill is to ad these snakes to the Lacey Act so that means bye bye all pythons and boas.
    Like :cens0r: im gonna kill my snakes. They are gonna have to come get them and take them from me by force.
    I'm not your friend buddy!

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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    What snakes are actually on this list that we know of so far? Burmese and redtails i presume.

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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    What exactly will happen:

    The species listed will be added to the list of injurious species in the Lacey Act.

    It will be illegal to import them, or transport them across state lines, without a special permit. The permit will only be granted to zoological institutions, educational institutions, etc.

    You will be able to breed and sell the animals within your own State, but NOT to buy or sell them across State lines. You will not be allowed to take your animals with you if you move from one State to another.
    1.0 50% het clown 1.0 50% het lavender 2.6 normal bp 1.0 normal poss axanthic 1.0 het pied bp 1.0 yellow belly 1.0 mojave bp 2.0 spider bp 2.1 pastel bp1.1 Cinnamon bp
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    Re: Newest email from USARK- Python ban moves forward

    Hi,

    Yes, that would be why he wasn't infracted just asked to re-read the rules.

    What you do in terms of the law is between the police and you - what you type about on the site however we would rather be within the rules of the site.

    You may want to think however what your "right thing to do" is likely to result in for everyone else.


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