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Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
So I decided to try and breed a yellowbelly pied. I am however having a difficult time figuring out the genetics.
I know it takes two pied genes to make a pied. That part was easy. However, I keep getting conflicting information on yellowbellies.
One place says you get all yellowbellies if you breed a YB to a normal. Other places say you get 50% YB and 50% normal. 
My question is this: If I were to breed a YB female who is het pied to a visual pied male, would she produce any YB pieds or only het YB and het YB pieds?
Before I invest a fortune in animals that won't produce what I'm looking for, I am hoping someone with more experience can point me in the right direction. 
Thank you for your time.
gale
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
yellowbelly is a codominant gene:
yellow belly x normal gives you - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies (each egg as 50% chance)
Ivory x normal will give you all yellow bellies though (maybe this was what you were seeing?)
yellow belly x pied - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies ALL 100% het for pied
Take 1.1 yellow bellies het pied and breed them together this will give you the possibility of having any of the following:
- 66% het pieds
- yellow bellies 66% het pied
- yellow belly pied
- ivoy 66% het pied
- ivory pied
- pieds
Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
-100% het pieds
-Yellow belly pieds
-yellow bellies 100% het pied
I cant remember the break downs for the % of each possibility right now. Hope that helped though
Last edited by cinderbird; 10-25-2009 at 08:08 PM.
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
 Originally Posted by angllady2
So I decided to try and breed a yellowbelly pied. I am however having a difficult time figuring out the genetics.
I know it takes two pied genes to make a pied. That part was easy. However, I keep getting conflicting information on yellowbellies.
One place says you get all yellowbellies if you breed a YB to a normal. Other places say you get 50% YB and 50% normal.
My question is this: If I were to breed a YB female who is het pied to a visual pied male, would she produce any YB pieds or only het YB and het YB pieds?
Before I invest a fortune in animals that won't produce what I'm looking for, I am hoping someone with more experience can point me in the right direction.
Thank you for your time.
gale
If you breed a YB to a normal the clutch "should" be 1/2 YB 1/2 normals.There is no such thing as het YB,its either a YB or a normal.
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
 Originally Posted by cinderbird
yellowbelly is a codominant gene:
yellow belly x normal gives you - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies (each egg as 50% chance)
Ivory x normal will give you all yellow bellies though (maybe this was what you were seeing?)
yellow belly x pied - 50% normals, 50% yellow bellies ALL 100% het for pied
Take 1.1 yellow bellies het pied and breed them together this will give you the possibility of having any of the following:
- 66% het pieds
- yellow bellies 66% het pied
- yellow belly pied
- ivoy 66% het pied
- ivory pied
- pieds
Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
-100% het pieds
-Yellow belly pieds
-yellow bellies 100% het pied
I cant remember the break downs for the % of each possibility right now. Hope that helped though 
You corrected the ivory pied in the last part .I hate it when i mess up to
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
 Originally Posted by joepythons
You corrected the ivory pied in the last part  .I hate it when i mess up to 
lol i always re-read my posts to make sure i dont need to fix something and went "...wait a minute!"
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
 Originally Posted by cinderbird
lol i always re-read my posts to make sure i dont need to fix something and went "...wait a minute!"
Been there done that
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
Good info here... YB Pied is an excellent project!
Justin
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
Thank you for clearing that up for me. 
And I am sure that one place I visited said you would get all YB from a YB X Normal cross, which did not sound right since I was pretty sure YB was co-dominant.
However, you gave me exactly the information I needed, and I am now confident I can succeed with my YB Pied project. It will take time, but I am a patient person.
Thanks again,
Gale
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
 Originally Posted by jkobylka
Good info here... YB Pied is an excellent project!
Justin
i go to your site to drool over the YB pied at least once a week.
Is there an ivory pied in the works? i want to see what that would look like.
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Re: Breeding for a Yellowbelly Pied
 Originally Posted by cinderbird
Take a yellow belly het pied and breed it to a pied and produce:
-100% het pieds
-Yellow belly pieds
-yellow bellies 100% het pied
Actually YB het Pied x Pied yields:
25% Het Pieds
25% YB Het Pieds
25% YB Pieds
25% Pieds
1.0: Honey Bee | Lesser | Banana Pastel Enchi | Clown 66% Het Albino
0.1: Kingpin | x2 Mojave | Super Pastel HGW | Albino | Sterling Mojave Pinstripe | GHI Pewter | Pastel Het Clown | Sable 66% Het Clown
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