Help with morelia viridis morph identification

[greg schroeder]

Hello,

The ball python community seems to be further advanced in genetic and morph determination than that of the chondro folks. With this I'm seeking opinions of a particular snake. The snake is said to be an offpsring from a wild caught normal looking gravid wild type(Wamena). Normal would be a darker green look. The snake in question hatched as red followed through to color change to loose the juvenile color and leave a ghost looking snake lacking much of the yellow and blue which would typically make a green snake.


Your opinions are valued and if you have a ball python morph which might be similar thoughts would be much appreciated.


This is the snake in question, and as snake apeared after color change from red hatchling, 3 years old. The snake is a few years older now and has shifted some colors here and there, but keeps a similar look.

[Turbo Serpent]

This should probably be in the Chondro section of the forum.

My wife definitely wants a GTP. And that one is sexy.

[SlitherinSisters]

Hmm I know nothing about that snakes morphs, maybe someone else will come along with more info. It is common for that kind of snake to change color? I don't know of any ball python morphs that change color other than darken or lighten slightly.

There is a section on this forum for that kind of snake. It's a GTP right?

Here's a thread where someone is asking what the snake will look like
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?t=102410

It's under "morelia" here on the forums. I'm not sure how many people here on bpnet own that sort of snake so I don't know how quickly you will get an answer.

Welcome to the site!

[waltah!]

I moved it to the Morelia forum for you so that you may get faster answers. That's a crazy cool looking snake, but I've never seen anything like it.

[mainbutter]

I will say, that is wone WHACKY looking GTP. I've seen pics of them in all different kinds of adult colors, but never seen one like that, and certainly never seen a wamena like that.

It wouldn't surprise me if there's something genetic going on, good luck proving it out!

[fishmommy]

very nice!

Almost looks like a paradox of some sort.

[Lucas339]

Greg,

this is one of my favorite GTP! im not sure what you are asking. are you asking what the genetics of the trait may be? in this case, try and breed one of the offspring back to her. if it is a simple recessive, then it may show up again. you may pull you hair out waiting the 3 years for the change but it may be possible.

but you are a seasoned MVF'er!! you should know that it is never that easy with this species!! from what i understand and from what ive been told, GTP color genes are not as simple as ball python genes. they are multi genes, if that makes sense. kinda like hair and eye color.

did you get any off the offspring from her last breeding?

[greg schroeder]

Thank you for the input folks. It is appreciated.

I was also hopeful my question could be directed toward ball python folks. I figured they would have an opinoin seperate from the green tree python community and in that forum it would have more exposure.

For example hypomelanistic/Ghost given the reduction of melanophores and/or axanthic given the lack of yellow. There's just not much talk about these things in chondros and I figured some solid experience in melanophores and xanthophore genetics from the ball python guys would be useful.

I do hope it's possible to work on proving out the condition at any case. It would be interesting to find a recessive condition in a chondro.

[Mike Schultz]

It does look like some kind of weird Hypo- In boa constrictors the Hypo gene still tends to leave a lot of black/darker coloring near the head as well.

[greg schroeder]

It does look like some kind of weird Hypo- In boa constrictors the Hypo gene still tends to leave a lot of black/darker coloring near the head as well.

Is this typically a recessive condition?