New odd hatchling.

[patb201985]

Champagne Pied ?!

[jere000]

black eyed lucy spinner or pinstripe?

[mason]

is it not a "mucky" (apologies, couldn't think of a better word) Black eyed Lucy?

A lot of super fires have some yellow blotching or speckling, is this a super sulphur? Has anyone produced a super sulphur that is as clean as the best super fires?

I don't think there is anyhting in that other than one of the het black eyed Lucy snakes, that being the super.

[MakiMaki]

Dave,
Congrats on an awesome snake! I hope this is the first of many cool things that happen with the sulfur.

[Jsh]

Makes me want to add sulfurs to my collection. Congrats on an amazing black eyed lucy!

[twistedtails]

I was gonna say Super Sulfer also. For anyone that thinks the sulfer and fire are the same, how does this look like a Super Fire. IMO, tatally different genes. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if anyone were to try to prove that the fire and sulfur were compatible, that they would be proved wrong(I had to say this for all the sulfer pioneers out there)!! You may get white snakes, but, there will still be the Super Sulfer and Super Fire differences.

[EmberBall]

Guys and gals, here is my take on Sulfurs. What most people do not know about them, and feel free to ask Eric, since he had the original female at his place for awhile on loan, is the original Sulfur female looks more like a maroon hypo, and not like any other adult Sulfur, or for that matter, adult Fire. Eric and I have discussed it, and the most plausible theories are: She is the oldest Het Black Eyed Lucy anywhere, and maybe all of them end up looking like a maroon hypo when they are her age (she could be almost 20), or, she has a hidden gene. Now obviously I would love to believe the hidden gene theory, for all the obvious reasons. This was the first Sulfur to Sulfur breeding for me, and it was using the original female. So, the hidden gene theory is not dead. Now, Eric brought up the possibility that this Super Sulfur might be a Super Sulfur Mojave, with the Mojave gene explaining the odd pattern and speckles. I am open to this theory, and think it might hold water, but, Eric bred Sulfur Mojave x Sulfur Mojave in 08, and produced a SOLID WHITE Super Sulfur, a blotched Super Sulfur, and a Super Mojave all in the same clutch, but none looked like mine. IF my snake is the result of a Mojave influence, I would have thought Eric would have produced one from his clutch first, since both parents were Mojaves.

I will never buy a Fire to prove this out, but if I was to guess, I would say the Sulfur x Fire Super would be a black eyed lucy. That is only a guess, and my honest opinion.

By the way, I would not call this snake mucky by any stretch of the imagination. Someone said it looked like candy, and I agree....

Dave

[EmberBall]

IT IS A SUPER SULFUR, ODD LOOKING BLACK EYED LUCY. Thanks for all who played my lame little game.

[guambomb832]

IT IS A SUPER SULFUR, ODD LOOKING BLACK EYED LUCY. Thanks for all who played my lame little game.

aww man.. I was going to say super sulfur mixed with a super stripe. In one of the pics you can see a faint stripe going down its back.

[soy.lor.n]

what do you get when you cross a blue eyed lucy with a black eyed lucy?
Does that not get you a white snake? (I see how it wouldn't...)