Hypos?

[Pulcher]

Can you guys explain to me why there is so many types of hypos? there's Green hypos, orange hypos, yellow hypos, butterscotch hypos. I know different lines arent compatible so can someone explain to me why there are so many? and how to pick on the right ones? I am trying to make a honey bee.

[RandyRemington]

I think most of the color varieties of hypo are compatible. In fact, I think I remember NERD once posting about the origin of one of the color lines coming out of another color line. They seem to just be a way to describe a selectively bred strain of hypos.

My first hypo might be hatching now (not sure how to judge colors before they are out of the egg). I bred a pastel male that is het hypo (his father is a hypo mojave using TSK's "extreme" hypo line) to a 50% chance het hypo female who's father I believe was descended from Brian Sharp's line (can't remember if that is "yellow" or "orange"). I had already heard several years ago that TSK's extreme hypo line was compatible with the others so it's just a matter of if my 50% chance het hit her odds and then I hit on a homozygous hypo. I don't think I can put a color label to any hypos I might produce with that mixed linage no matter what they look like.

Perhaps someone else can confirm the names of any hypo lines known not to be compatible with the majority of the lines that are compatible with each other. Graziani’s G1 line is all I can think of right now.

[RandyRemington]

While we get some people who have actually hatched hypos before looking at this thread I have to ask; is this just a pastel, a pastel het hypo, or a hypo pastel?



Sorry for the terrible picture, I'll get better of her and any others that come out tomorrow.

[matt71915]

looks like a regular pastel
there would be no way of telling if its a pastel het hypo without knowing the parents

as far as i know random lines have been proven compatable, im almost positive that the green hypo isnt compatable with any of the other hypos

to make a queen bee the best way to go about it is to breed an orange hypo to a spider which will give you a clutch of 50% spider het hypo and 50% normal het hypo. then you hold back a spider and grow it up and breed it with the hypo.
im not sure if a yellow hypo would make a queen bee or not

[RandyRemington]

Thanks. Hopefully I'll hit the hypo pastel combo with one of the babies still in the egg. There is one for sure just hypo head sticking out now so I know the 50% chance het hypo mom hit the odds. In 2004 when I hatched her 50% chance het hypo clutch half the babies where noticeably brighter than the others (unfortunately she was the only bright female). Maybe it was some other gene but I've always thought it might have been a co-dominant tendency in hypo as I've also read about and even seen het hypos that shed clear although certainly they don't all. Maybe it's sort of like the possible het pieds where you can sometimes tell but not always.

I wonder if there is more than one type of ball being called "green hypo" because I thought it was green that NERD reported they started with to produce one of the other color lines (yellow or orange, don't remember). But now that you mention it I think I remember reading more recently about a green line of hypo that wasn't compatible.