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    Dominant bred with het

    Hello all,
    I am new to the forum and want to get into breeding BP's. I have had them in the past but never tried breeding. What would the outcome be if I bred a Dominant Male(spider) with a Normal Het for something such as albino or pied? Would I just get some Spiders and some Normals? Is it even worth breeding with something that is het or should I just breed with a normal female? As for hets is it only worth breeding them with something that is the same het as it or the showing version of it? Thanks I am trying to get the whole genetics thing down before I make any purchases.
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    Re: Dominant bred with het

    You will get 50% Spiders (that are 50% Possible Het) and 50% Normal (that are 50% Possible Het)
    1.0: Honey Bee | Lesser | Banana Pastel Enchi | Clown 66% Het Albino
    0.1: Kingpin | x2 Mojave | Super Pastel HGW | Albino | Sterling Mojave Pinstripe | GHI Pewter | Pastel Het Clown | Sable 66% Het Clown

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    Re: Dominant bred with het

    I think hets are for breeding to other hets of the same gene. That's why they cost so much.
    I wouldn't get 100% hets of something unless I planned to breed that gene out.

    I would just get a nice normal to breed to a spider to get 50% spiders and 50% normals.
    Or, get a pastel, mojave, lesser, butter, yb, or any co-dom and add bees to the equation!

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    Re: Dominant bred with het

    If the het is a female then I think you would be better off getting a visual or het male of the same morph so that you could produce more visual recessive offspring.

    Edit: I just saw you are looking to purchase and do not own snakes already. Some advice would be to buy and raise up your females first and then buy males later on since females take 3yrs typically to sexually mature and males only 1.
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    1.0 100% Het Albino
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    1.0 Pastel 100% Het Goldfinger
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    Re: Dominant bred with het

    OK thanks everyone I think i got it. What about breeding a visual albino with a spider? Could u get albino spiders?

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    Re: Dominant bred with het

    No you would get spiders Het albino and Het albinos
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    Re: Dominant bred with het

    ok thanks.

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    Re: Dominant bred with het

    So far I think Pinstripe is the only proven dominant ball python mutation. Chances are your pinstripe is a het but if you happened to have a homozygous pinstripe the only difference would be that all of the babies would be pinstripe.

    If you go with pied as your recessive het there would be some chance that you could pick out the double hets (het recessive and het dominant) babies. I think it was Graziani who posted some odd looking pastel and spider het pieds so I arranged for one of my possible het pied (the closest thing I had to a breedable het) to be bred by a spider but I didn't see a particularly odd spider to pick. My girl might well not be het pied anyway but now I have a spider male long shot het pied. I've since seen pictures of for sure het pied spiders and pastels that didn't stand out as much as those first ones I saw so it's certainly not a sure thing. I think RDR’s lesser het pied was pretty striking so that might be another combo if you are interested in for sure co-dominants like pastel and lesser and not just known dominants like pinstripe or questionable reported dominants like spider.

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