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[stormwulf133]

I hate hitting post before I am done. Anyway, there are several scientists still out there that think other canines were used, though only in minute amounts, when creating the dog.

[harm286]

i hate hitting post before i am done. Anyway, there are several scientists still out there that think other canines were used, though only in minute amounts, when creating the dog.

sum that dont exist too rite

[stormwulf133]

Plants are a lot easier to "hybridize" than animals. However, a lot of genes are just plain incompatible. Look it up!

Plants and animals can barely even be used in the same context. Plants are much easier to hybridize and cross than animals. Even then, it can be very difficult from within the same family.

Fairly certain I am not understanding the point here. Plants cant be used as an example because they are easier to cross?

I hope all of you anti hybrid people don't own a ferret as they are suspected by many researchers to be hybrids. If you own a fish tank, flush your platies, parrot cichlids, and flowerhorns.

I wouldn't recommend picking up a hamburger either. As follows the list of hybrid cattle you may be eating....

* Amerifax: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Estonian Red cattle (Dairy/beef)
* Groningen: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Hays Converter: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Hybridmaster: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Illawara: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Israeli Red: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Jamaica Black: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Karan Swiss: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Limpurger: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Madura cattle: Banteng/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef/draught/racing)
* Nguni: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Sanhe: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef/draught)
* Selembu: cattle/gayal hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Siboney: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Beef/draught)
* Xingjiang Brown: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef/draught)

[harm286]

Fairly certain I am not understanding the point here. Plants cant be used as an example because they are easier to cross?

I hope all of you anti hybrid people don't own a ferret as they are suspected by many researchers to be hybrids. If you own a fish tank, flush your platies, parrot cichlids, and flowerhorns.

I wouldn't recommend picking up a hamburger either. As follows the list of hybrid cattle you may be eating....

* Amerifax: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Estonian Red cattle (Dairy/beef)
* Groningen: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Hays Converter: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Hybridmaster: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Illawara: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Israeli Red: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Jamaica Black: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Karan Swiss: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Limpurger: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Madura cattle: Banteng/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef/draught/racing)
* Nguni: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Sanhe: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef/draught)
* Selembu: cattle/gayal hybrid (Dairy/beef)
* Siboney: Taurine/Zebu hybrid (Beef/draught)
* Xingjiang Brown: Taurine hybrid (Dairy/beef/draught)

you must love hamburgers lol
that list just made me hungry

[2kdime]

The thing is were not talking about cattle, were talking about keeping blood lines PURE among our REPTILES.

I hate to sound mean about it but...

Go ahead and produce some hybrid animals, I wont buy it from you. Neither will A LOT of people.

Hybrid snakes have no spot in my collection

[harm286]

the thing is were not talking about cattle, were talking about keeping blood lines pure among our reptiles. Think about this...and call me a bad guy because of it...but if i were ever to be in the market for a new snake...

I won't buy it if it's a hybrid
i wont buy it if it's suspected to be a hybrid either on my end or yours
i won't buy it if your producing hybrids, and theres any chance there was a mixup
i would spread the word around that your producing hybrids to inform others

hybrid snakes have no spot in my collection, and i could be your potential customer.

couldnt a hybrid be considered pure though afters years in the making ?

[stormwulf133]

The thing is were not talking about cattle, were talking about keeping blood lines PURE among our REPTILES.

Why is it ok for one persons species of animals but not anothers? Why is it ok, for one reason, but not another? All I am saying is there are a lot of people that are ok with it in some instances but not others. Shouldn't it be black and white?

That being said, I probably wouldn't buy a hybrid ball, or a carpet. I do however have a creamsicle corn but there is still argument over that, that is a whole nother story. It does however, give you something to think about. Why is it ok sometimes and not others?

[blackcrystal22]

couldnt a hybrid be considered pure though afters years in the making ?

Nope.
A hybrid is a hybrid permanently. Even if some people don't realize it was a hybrid, it still is because it's not the original natural species.

Sorry, but guess what, it doesn't matter how much you argue about the situation, many people will not purchase from hybrid owners (and many people will check). I for one, will avoid purchasing even a 'pure' bloodline from a breeder with hybrids (that they bred or are breeding). I don't trust their stock, unless I know them well personally.

[blackcrystal22]

Why is it ok for one persons species of animals but not anothers? Why is it ok, for one reason, but not another? All I am saying is there are a lot of people that are ok with it in some instances but not others. Shouldn't it be black and white?

That being said, I probably wouldn't buy a hybrid ball, or a carpet. I do however have a creamsicle corn but there is still argument over that, that is a whole nother story. It does however, give you something to think about. Why is it ok sometimes and not others?

I don't support even cattle hybrids, because they are still mud in my mind.
Your choosing to eat them, not me.

I don't see where it's ok ever. It only seems that your seeing it as ok from what you think other people think. I don't think any of it's ok in the least.

[2kdime]

First off I'm glad we can all talk about stuff like this in an open forum, its nice to see others opinions and get each others feedback.

I would have to give my best response as an echo of Blackcrystal"s

With so many producing animals now a days, and herpers gaining more experience, you need to breed carefully. Breed for colors and mutations within the same species. Breed hybrids, or be known to harbor hybrids, and your going to cut your client el down significantly.

Thing is you just can't control what others do with your hybrids after they get them. It's too easy to end up with an animal that's X% another species.

The cattle deal, I don;t eat alot of beef anyways. But I still don't see the need to hybridize even those animals.

I guess the best answer to ME being selective and not being BLACK and WHITE, is personal preference.