Spider question

[T&C Exotics]

Ok I hope this comes out right but I doubt it will so I will explain a lot and annoy you slightly. I am wanting to know if when breeding a spider to a normal what your personal experience is with them when the spider is the male and when it is the female. Which have you noticed gives more Spider offspring? I am doing a paper for school and am looking for more than just myself and a few local breeders. However I have found that there seems to be a trend so far but I do not want to sway anyone with my results so far. I will post the end results when I am done with the paper. I hope that was clear but I will state again this is only taking into consideration when breeding a normal to a spider. Not what the results should be mathematically according to the punnet square but what your personal experience has been with them.

[Freakie_frog]

I bred a spider to a normal and backed him up with a Pastel male.. I got 6 eggs and 6 of them were normals

I bred the same spider to a Normal and got 11 eggs and 8 of them were spiders. I can tell you your spider odds don't improve based on which sex carries the gene.

[T&C Exotics]

I get what you are saying but like I said i do notice a trend so far. I guess what i am trying to get at is over all not just certain breedings. Like ok say I have 25 male spiders and 25 female spiders right. I breed each male spider to a female normal, one to one, and i take normales and breed them to the female spiders, again one to one, I know according to the punnet square I sohuld get exact half and half split but life does not work that way. Wow I am sucking at explaining my question here huh... So anyways from the above stated breedings would there me more spiders int he clutches from the male spiders or fromt he clutches of the female spiders....... Think that makes sense not to sure.... I did ask one of the big guys and he gave me the punnet square answer and I do understand your answer freakie frog but my question is more of an over this many clutches from spider to normal breedings I had this many spiders produced from male spiders and this many spiders produced from female spiders... I think that is more a understandable way of putting it.

[Ben Biscy]

make a poll

[Turbo Serpent]

Learn to use the enter key to make paragraphs they are easier to read.

And not many people here are going to give you an answer other than the punnet square answer, because in all reality, there is no way of honestly answering your question.

It is all luck. If we could control the outcomes as to which sex gave more of a particular morph I would honestly believe that the largest and more profound breeders would already be doing this.

We don't control the genetics other than who we decide to pair together after that its all the luck of the draw.

[T&C Exotics]

That is why I am asking for personal experience.

[Turbo Serpent]

That is why I am asking for personal experience.

And like I said, most people responses are going to be exactly like Freakies. It is the luck of the draw.

Sometimes you can get absolutely no co-doms and all normals, Like Freakie said. And then other times you can get more than 50%, like Freakie said.

There is no way better than the other.

[T&C Exotics]

Apparently I am not being clear as to what i am asking.

I know it is luck of the draw. I know that percentags say it will always be the same.

What I am trying to get to is when you have bred snake A to snake B how many were what you were looking for out of the pairing? So more statistics. That was why I worded my second question the way I did.

From breeding male spiders this many eggs were laid/hatched and this many were spiders.

From breeding femals spiders this many eggs were laid/hatched and this many were spiders.

That kind of thing.

I guess I should of worded it like this in the first place.

I hope that clears up what I am trying to get.

[Egapal]

Apparently I am not being clear as to what i am asking.

I know it is luck of the draw. I know that percentags say it will always be the same.

What I am trying to get to is when you have bred snake A to snake B how many were what you were looking for out of the pairing? So more statistics. That was why I worded my second question the way I did.

From breeding male spiders this many eggs were laid/hatched and this many were spiders.

From breeding femals spiders this many eggs were laid/hatched and this many were spiders.

That kind of thing.

I guess I should of worded it like this in the first place.

I hope that clears up what I am trying to get.

The question is pretty clear. You just aren't accepting the answer. Its all chance. It doesn't matter what Tom or Bill or Susans experiences are. Because there is someone out there with every experience possible because its all chance.

Male or Female, the spider has a 50/50 chance of passing its spiderness onto each of spring. Got 1 egg. Flip a coin. Got 10 eggs. Flip the coin 10 times. That's how it works. Some people will get all heads, some all tails, most will get a mix. The sex of the spider does not matter.

[Turbo Serpent]

That actually will make more sense to actually get hard numbers.

Thanks for the clarification.