Possible leo problems???

[shadraak]

i dont understand, female stays under the dry hide ( see she's really dull tonight so needing a shed) male stays in my 6qt steralite tote with hole in it filled with moss (humid hide), the female was bred before i got her but i dont think she's gravid but she is quite heavy, i can't get a look at her belly long enough to tell though or get a picture but i felt around as best i can and didn't feel anything in there...

my question and concerns are, the male had pieces of shed still stuck to him (shed before i got him) belly seems always nice and wet but back doesn't.. is the humid hide not humid? and the female stays on the tiles/hides all the time, i made a makeshift himid hide for her on the warm side under her fav. hide with a wet paper towell and put her hide over it, i know i'll have to mist this atleast every day but she wont go in anything else, and i dont want her to have a bad shed... do leo's go thru a pre lay shed like snakes? and is it good for my male to be in that humid hide all the time? and my female to never go in it? like i'll put her in it and she'll run right out. i've used that eco brick before, but my problem is it molds sooo quick and has a very strong , not cedar but that kind of scent to it, and wonder if that's ok just mist it down or what?

i'm not a newbie but never had one with these types of problems before, used to keep my old female in that stuff and was never a problem.

[tina_t]

if i were you i would put in a second moss-filled hide for the female on the cool side. often when housing geckos together, one gecko or another will lay claim to a particular hide, and thats perhaps why she doesnt want to be in "his space". provide both geckos with a humid hide on the cool end, and provide at least two hides per gecko. so a total of 6 hides in the tank and this will help reduce aggression related to having to share hides.

you don't need to use a 6qt container as a humid hide, even a tall sandwich sized container with some moist vermiculite is adequate.

i don't like the eco-brick/bed-a-beast/coco-fibre stuff for the same reason, its always going moldy. I use vermiculite in all my humid hides, and just spray it down once or twice a week when it gets too dry. it shouldn't be sopping wet, just moist.

also, a note about "feeling for eggs" -- you most likely won't feel anything even if she does have eggs, because they are incredibly soft. keep an eye on her too, because if she starts losing drastic amounts of weight, you will need to separate her from the male. this is why its often better to house leopard geckos individually.

hope this has helped somewhat.

[shadraak]

Well it's just what was there for the humid hide i have some sandwich containers but they seem too small for her or too shallow, they get along great, they were raised like that before...

dont humid hides have to be on the warm side?

the humid hide is quite humid, sides and lid are always wet so i guess it's humid enough, i'm making her a new one right now but those sandwich containers i have are pretty small and i guess i'll use that moss in them since i have a ton of that hehe but i guess there doesn't have to be a TON of the medium in there so i'll put a thin layer of the moss down in the 2 old hides i had, one is a square high one with a hole in the side, and another is a shorter one but bigger around, witha whole in the top i'll see if that works for them. if pics are needed here ya go but best way to see how thigns are now is to check out the vids i have at http://youtube.com/grndragon26

small square one with whole in side



Short one with hole in top

[tina_t]

the new humid hides look good, though for next time i would cut the holes only in the lids, and make them about the size of a golfball... they can squeeze in without any issue. they are good climbers too, so they'll have no problem getting ontop and into even the higher ones. (especially if they are both adults).

humid hides should be on the cool side, that way they can spend time in them without over heating.

i checked out your most recent video, and i would say ditch the 6qt. long humid hide, and get some more dry hides in there. you should have at least 2 hides per gecko per temp. area if you are housing them together. these can be as simple as a plastic tray with a small door cut out, i use meat trays (the small black ones) and you can just ask the deli for them, usually very cheap or free.

other than that, everything looks pretty good!

this is a link to my friend clint's site, but i use his humid hides, they are painted with paint-for-plastic, and they are about 8" long and 3.5" wide, and make great lay boxes and secure-feeling humid hides.
http://albertabredgeckos.com/Picture...000mL%20V1.jpg

[shadraak]

the new humid hides look good, though for next time i would cut the holes only in the lids, and make them about the size of a golfball... they can squeeze in without any issue. they are good climbers too, so they'll have no problem getting ontop and into even the higher ones. (especially if they are both adults).

humid hides should be on the cool side, that way they can spend time in them without over heating.

i checked out your most recent video, and i would say ditch the 6qt. long humid hide, and get some more dry hides in there. you should have at least 2 hides per gecko per temp. area if you are housing them together. these can be as simple as a plastic tray with a small door cut out, i use meat trays (the small black ones) and you can just ask the deli for them, usually very cheap or free.

other than that, everything looks pretty good!

this is a link to my friend clint's site, but i use his humid hides, they are painted with paint-for-plastic, and they are about 8" long and 3.5" wide, and make great lay boxes and secure-feeling humid hides.
http://albertabredgeckos.com/Picture...000mL%20V1.jpg

that looks sooo small hehe, my worry is that she wont use a humid hide to put the eggs in and it'll be on the wet paper towell or something or on the tiles... and i really wanna keep these eggs my first season and she wasn't bred with that male so i'm really hoping it'll work out i'll go buy some of those i got some more of those small square ziploc things but i think they're too small for a lay box, i'll just keep them for eggs when i get them.... and i'll get one of those for a humid hide oh well the cold side is usually 77-82 in spots so i guess that's not that cold just feels cold to me i figured they'd need warm and wet in the humid hides.

[tina_t]

my females have used sandwich sized containers as well as the green containers successfully as lay boxes.... it doesn't need to be a huge bin, because they want somewhere private and secure. adding a few smaller humid hides will give her a wider choice for where to lay eggs, and you wont end up with dried out eggs on the tile.

you still will need to have a humid hide for each gecko, as well as probably 4 or so hides in the other areas of the tank. competition for things like hotspots, humid hides and food/water are what causes problems with health of geckos. so the more you can do/provide to reduce the "need to share" the better things will be. the female needs to be able to get away from the male, so sharing a humid hide isn't going to work.

[shadraak]

well i put a wet papertowell under a hide on the warm side and they've both been in it all day, female had a complete shed so all is well, just worried about the laying thing, if i find out she's not gravid i'll just do 2 hides with paper towells for now till i get better later.

[shadraak]

well here's what i made they look a bit short to me but we'll see, i have one with a whole in the top and one with a hole in the front covered in elec. tape how bout these?



and this is my new arrangement.