CO2 Chamber

[littleindiangirl]

.. replacing anything in the lungs is suffocation no matter how fast or slow you do it my friend. Then again CO2 is sometimes used by people to get high in the fact that if you inhale it you basically black out ( NEVER EVER EVER DO THAT!!!!! I had a friend do it once* then again he was an idiot and he was driving* and he crashed his car into an apartment.) Your "drowsiness" is more like passing out. Those of you who have experimented with duster know what it feels like.

Royal Guardian, CO2 is perfectly humane.

If you read on the subject: At high concentrations (70-100% concentration) CO2 will increase the pain threshold, and will have a anesthetic effect in 12-50 seconds for rats, depending on concentration used. (AVMA , p. 11)

WELL before the animal feels any sensation of suffocating. They are quickly knocked out and are not aware of the lack of oxygen. They have no sensation of hypoxia.

[RoyalGuardian]

Obviously you have never seen someone huff duster for the first time. it has an "anesthetic" effect only because your giving that poor creature the trip of his life. >

**link removed**

<< this is what is going on when you do it. There is nothing in duster but condensed CO2 so you can't say its different.

[RoyalGuardian]

CO2 is NOT humane I don't care how many times people say it because I have seen it almost kill people. I know that people think its cool and fun and they do it for fun but doing it to an animal just isn't right. I'm tired of people blowing me off because I know what I'm talking about. I had to watch a childhood friend be put in an ambulance like that and to say that it doesn't suffocate your brain is a complete lie.

[RoyalGuardian]

And If the mods see fit I will take an infraction for the video with my apologies but its really the only way to explain what your doing to your prey item. Doing duster kills so many braincells every time you do it. Imagine that on a mouse and you get where I'm coming from.

[littleindiangirl]

CO2 is NOT humane I don't care how many times people say it because I have seen it almost kill people. I know that people think its cool and fun and they do it for fun but doing it to an animal just isn't right. I'm tired of people blowing me off because I know what I'm talking about. I had to watch a childhood friend be put in an ambulance like that and to say that it doesn't suffocate your brain is a complete lie.

Kids getting high is not the same as putting a rat to sleep.

You are not educated or qualified to say that CO2 as a means to euthanize is NOT humane. Yes the animal dies from hypoxia, that does not mean it is suffering or in pain.

You are literally blowing it out your rear...

[dr del]

Hi,

You are fundamentally missing the important differences that have been repeatedly pointed out to you about this.

The idiot in that video (which I have removed ) deprived themselves of oxygen using CO2 at high concentrations for only a short period of time before resuming breathing in an oxygen rich environment.

This does not happen when you use CO2 to euthanise rodents in the correct manner - they are exposed to low levels at first untill they become drowsy and fall asleep then the levels are increased to actually kill them.

At no time do they get put back into the normal atmosphere.

You are comparing apples to oranges in both the method and the effect.


dr del

[West Coast Jungle]

But at the same time you are suffocating the animal. Have you ever seen the first Resident Evil movie? In it the Red Queen/computer locks some of the people in a chamber and fills it with CO2 to suffocate them and quite frankly I would rather die by being smacked in the neck with a ruler( If I was a rat) Then again I know how much you adore your rodents but honestly CO2 isn't as humane as first believed I mean.. Living things need oxygen, if you fill a chamber with something other than air what happens? They suffocate. Just my two cents nothin on ya sweetie

Are you really making a statement based on a Resident Evil movie as your reason for not using CO2?

I think one should make there decision based on scientific facts and not a horror movie.

[loperm]

Didn't get to watch video but I can imagine. I agree with del.

you can't compare them to each other.

[West Coast Jungle]

CO2 is NOT humane I don't care how many times people say it because I have seen it almost kill people. I know that people think its cool and fun and they do it for fun but doing it to an animal just isn't right. I'm tired of people blowing me off because I know what I'm talking about. I had to watch a childhood friend be put in an ambulance like that and to say that it doesn't suffocate your brain is a complete lie.

What does some purposly inhaling CO2 to get high have to do with with euthanizing rodents?

[loperm]

Just reading these threads makes me wonder.