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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
oh yes and peta isnt guilty of tossing puppies off of bridges!
and the hss who doesnt even view reptiles as a pet nor take them in or adopt them out.
these groups really are a joke and i wouldnt give them 1 red cent i dont care if the world bank was my personall bank account
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
 Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead
When trying to make an intelligient and coherent post, then punctuation and spelling is paramount.
Which I why I avoid those posts at all costs. 
Yeah, I think I'm gonna fallow in your footsteps Bruce. http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/i.../th_fing02.gif
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
 Originally Posted by Richard
I have one last rebuttal then i have start working on my pape. For every nonnative species that has been imported and and unresponsibly released in the wild, most in which have effected the native species to a great degree almost to and in some cases to extinction. All these species that have been lost or are currently losing, you all approve of this?
I'm confused, what nonnative species was released into the wild that caused an extinction in our native animals?
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
 Originally Posted by stratus_020202
I'm confused, what nonnative species was released into the wild that caused an extinction in our native animals? 
Hominidae Homo sapiens
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
 Originally Posted by nixer
Hominidae Homo sapiens
I was going to say something about that, but thought it might create a bigger rise in people. lol. Nicely said
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
 Originally Posted by Neal
Are you serious? I hope he's not serious.
You can't have it both ways, You can't agree with part of the bill then not agree with the other part of the bill.
No offense man, but that's seriously the dumbest thing i've heard.
PIJAC POSITION -- PIJAC supports the underlying intent of HR 669 to establish a risk-based process in order
to prevent the introduction of potentially invasive species. It has been clear for quite some time that steps are
needed to enhance and improve the current listing process for species shown to be injurious under the Lacey Act.
In addition to much needed appropriations to fund staff and other ancillary support aids, the Lacey Act needs to
be modernized to make the process more timely, efficient and transparent. However, HR 669 falls far short of
accomplishing this objective.
Not my words Neal. Not the OP's either.
I know some clown is going to jump on this and claim I support the Bill. Let me make it clear - I do not.
I do however, agree with PIJAC's position regarding additional steps being needed to improve the current listing process for potentially injurious species.
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
I see you're point, but I just don't believe somebody can half support the bill, thats all.
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
 Originally Posted by Deborah
...One they stop this industry what make you think they will stop there and not make you surrender your animals to have them put down.
I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BILL or any part of it as it stands
And I also think you need to re-read that bill and understand it fully because you do not get the BIG PICTURE all you see for now is YOU and your ability to keep your 1 or 2 pet snakes.
This is the first thought I had! What makes any one think that they will allow you to keep your pets once they are banned? They will force you to put your animals down! And the same people that are supporting this bill (the people pushing for it, not the gov officials) are supposed to be the same ones protecting our animals! People look and see who is pushing for this and think 'oh it is such and such group' they must be right they are always pushing to help the animals!
The problem with closed minded thinking is the people do not look at the big picture! They just see the little bit they want to and close out the rest!
 Originally Posted by Richard
I have one last rebuttal then i have start working on my pape. For every nonnative species that has been imported and and unresponsibly released in the wild, most in which have effected the native species to a great degree almost to and in some cases to extinction. All these species that have been lost or are currently losing, you all approve of this?
O yea and this lol
This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Mar 7, 2009 11:06AM]
no need to worry
You need to do some more research on what is going on my friend!
If you wait to fight for your rights (or the rights of any one else) they will be removing your rights before you get up and fight!
 Originally Posted by Richard
o just wait for a few hours and you will see the result of all this, i will be posting it in a few hours
THANK YOU ALL WHO TOOK THE TIME TO REPLY TO THIS
Means a lot really
like i said i will show you why in few hours mabey around 9pm
I hope you have a good reason for doing this my friend! I truly hope that you do not feel this way.
Mike
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
It doesn't really matter if the government will NEVER take the animals you have grandfathered in!
You will not be able to trade, breed, sell, or buy EVER AGAIN. That means that within a short period of time(a generation at most) all reptile pets will be gone FOREVER in the US.
No breeding, no importing, no transporting across state lines... if you want a gecko? Too bad.
Your neice wants to have a tortoise? Nope. Defeating the bill NOW is the answer.
Theresa Baker
No Legs and More
Florida, USA
"Stop being a wimpy monkey,; bare some teeth, steal some food and fling poo with the alphas. "
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Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
 Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
It doesn't really matter if the government will NEVER take the animals you have grandfathered in!
You will not be able to trade, breed, sell, or buy EVER AGAIN. That means that within a short period of time(a generation at most) all reptile pets will be gone FOREVER in the US.
No breeding, no importing, no transporting across state lines... if you want a gecko? Too bad.
Your neice wants to have a tortoise? Nope. Defeating the bill NOW is the answer.
nor could you cross state lines with one of your own animals
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