Thoughts on Hybrids

[_Venom_]

I don't mind it.
I'd own one.
But I wouldn't breed them.

I think they should just be novelty type of snakes.
Not something to mix and match.

[Slim]

This is in no way an abomination and I find it sad that just because the animal has a outwardly birth defect that doesn't harm its quality of life for the most part you consider it an abomination. Siamese twins aren't abominations they can't help how they were born.

Till, just to be clear, I hope you know I wasn' concidering conjoined twins to be abominations...that's something that occures from time to time, and can't be avoided, at least I don't think it can be, yet.

When humans get involved and start pairing up disimilar species together, that's when I start having a problem.

[Bruce Whitehead]

I think I may be the only person with snakes that is relatively ambivalent about hybrids?

Ouch, what is that? It hurts... oh it is just a fence post.

Bruce

[zackw419]

Here's where I draw my personal line in the sand; BP morphs, while not naturally occuring, are products of the same species of snake. Hybrids are not, and that's why I think they are abominations...at least I stopped short of saying they should all be thrown in the freezer or shot in the head like zombies....oh wait, I guess I didn't stop short

I am completely aware of that. Hybridizing is MORE of an abomination to nature, but to some extent, morphs are too. I am by no means talking trash about morphs, i love different morphs. Just like dog breeds, life wouldn't be the same without dog breeds, but they are by no means natural. I'm just saying

[Slim]

I think I may be the only person with snakes that is relatively ambivalent about hybrids?

Bruce

To be honest, Bruce, I'm not sure what it is about hybrids that gets me worked up. I don't have any real moral, religous, or scientific objections to them, but from the first time I saw some in K. McCurley's book, they just struck me as wrong. I don't have a lot to back up my personal dislike for them. I guess it's just a gut check thing.

[Slim]

I am completely aware of that. Hybridizing is MORE of an abomination to nature, but to some extent, morphs are too. I am by no means talking trash about morphs, i love different morphs. Just like dog breeds, life wouldn't be the same without dog breeds, but they are by no means natural. I'm just saying

And I'm just saying that it's my personal line in the sand, I wouldn't support making it illegal or anything like that.

I like dogs as well, and I especially like mixed breed mutts, but they are all the same species who seek each other out for copulation and reproduction. I would not be happy about a dog x cat cross.

[Bruce Whitehead]

To be honest, Bruce, I'm not sure what it is about hybrids that gets me worked up. I don't have any real moral, religous, or scientific objections to them, but from the first time I saw some in K. McCurley's book, they just struck me as wrong. I don't have a lot to back up my personal dislike for them. I guess it's just a gut check thing.

I think that is fair Slim. I know breeders that will not trade with anyone that works with hybrids. Based on their beliefs.

Hybrids are a hugely polarizing issue in this community.

I think regardless of what side of the issue people are on, discussing it and thinking it through are never bad things. There will never be a workable solution that encompasses both camps. The ends are too extreme.

We bring our conscsience (yeesh i can spell on other days) to every thing we do including this hobby.

Bruce

[DutchHerp]

Slim, I'm with you on that. I don't have any real reason to dislike hybrids; I just do.

When snakes can interbreed in the wild, it's OK-ish. A perfect example would be carpondros; they share the same range in the wild and thus it is possible for them to hybridize (however unlikely this may be).

However, when Burms for example are bred to balls, it's just too much for me. It goes against the natural way of things...

[ThyTempest]

I have no problems with hybrids. I can see why people are opposed to them, but I dont hear too many people complaining about genetically engineered (aka hybrid in most cases) food crops to keep production efficient. Just my 2 cents.

[zackw419]

And I'm just saying that it's my personal line in the sand, I wouldn't support making it illegal or anything like that.

I like dogs as well, and I especially like mixed breed mutts, but they are all the same species who seek each other out for copulation and reproduction. I would not be happy about a dog x cat cross.

Agreed.