I bought a pair of het lavenders in 2005. The female laid for me in 07. 5 slugs and one good egg. The good egg ended up being a poss het male. In 08 she laid nothing. This year I was able to get three of the male hets offspring from normal females to go. So far it looks like only one of the three poss hets proved out but I'll take it. I also finally got 7 good eggs from the 100% het female that were just laid a week ago so I may get lucky and get another one or two. If I had to do it over again I probably would have just bought the male het and saved myself quite a few thousand dollars but I'll take it. Now I am just hoping it ends up being a male. Pretty excited to see what this it looks like when it finally decides to come out.