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Re: Western hognose????
Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany
Lol, that's a good thing.
Especially if you may be allergic to the saliva, letting the Hog keep chewing you and pumping the saliva into your system wouldn't be the best choice to do.
I live in Arizona, where it's both hot and humid which makes it perfect for a Hog. My Hog is doing very well actually, I fed him last Thursday and he did not refuse it at all. He went right for it too. The funny thing is he doesn't strike he just takes it :].
It isn't the saliva that you need to worry about...
Originally Posted by Neal
No I would really say 10 gal isn't fine. The 10 gal tanks are quite small. The minimum tank size sufficent for adult hognoses are 10 gal yes, however it's not really recommended.
Ten gallons is fine.
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Re: Western hognose????
Originally Posted by RedDevil
It isn't the saliva that you need to worry about...
Idk whats right but I thought brian (dont know the spelling) from BHB (snakebytes) said that venom is just a specalized type of saliva. So.... it would be.
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Re: Western hognose????
Originally Posted by RedDevil
It isn't the saliva that you need to worry about...
Ten gallons is fine.
I would never put an adult hog in a 10 gal, that's just me. A 10 gal is too small for an adult hog, atleast for me.
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Re: Western hognose????
Originally Posted by I<3Dreamsicles
Idk whats right but I thought brian (dont know the spelling) from BHB (snakebytes) said that venom is just a specalized type of saliva. So.... it would be.
This about sums it up.
Originally Posted by Neal
I would never put an adult hog in a 10 gal, that's just me. A 10 gal is too small for an adult hog, atleast for me.
It's cool that you wouldn't, but that doesn't mean it isn't right. I could put a Hog in a 100 gallon, and refuse to use anything less, but that doesn't mean it isn't overkill.
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Re: Western hognose????
Right, but some of us actually like to provide a decent amount of space. Not all of us want to put a 20"+ Adult hog in a 10 gallon.
That's like making your bathroom your bedroom.
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Re: Western hognose????
Yes, because people are so similar to snakes... And I could live quite comfortably in my bathroom, but I suppose it is a bit bigger than most.
My point is, while it is nice that you like to put your snakes in more spacious enclosures, let's not pretend they need it. There is no need to tell someone the enclosure is too small just because it isn't what you would use. If it is sufficient, then that is all there is to it. No need to go passing opinions off as facts.
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Re: Western hognose????
If you really think about it for an adult hognose, A 10 gal is good for a male, I wouldn't use it as a few others wouldn't. A female gets larger however, and a 10 gal isn't sufficent. I never passed any opinions as facts, I said 10 gal can be used, however I would not.
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Re: Western hognose????
I was mostly referring to your initial post where it simply said they weren't alright to use. I completely agree that most females need bigger, though.
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Re: Western hognose????
Originally Posted by RedDevil
I was mostly referring to your initial post where it simply said they weren't alright to use. I completely agree that most females need bigger, though.
I don't believe I said that they were not alright to use, and if I did, it was a mistype, I was probably thinking something else and typing, and got confused. For a male yes a 10 gal can be used, I still however wouldn't, but like I said, that's just me. A 10 gal for a female is definately too small.
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Re: Western hognose????
I will jump in here and say that the one thing to remember about hognoses is that they are active, on the go snakes. They USE the space you give them. My little boy sledge, he crawls around all day and never, ever stops! He digs, he moves stuff around, but he is very active most of the time, Ever since he was a little egglette. You could keep a similar sized snake that is less active in a small enclosure and that snake would be completely comfortable. An adult female will grow far too large for a 10 gallon, in my opinion, even a 20 long. Similar to female ribbon snakes, they actually get a lot bigger than people think they may. A male COULD live in a 10 gallon but I personally would bump him up once he was nearing full grown simply because they LIKE space and use it. They don't absolutely need it but I have no doubts that in a ten gallon tank, my male would be climbing glass all day long.
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