Here you are...

[blackcrystal22]

Careful, whatever group I belong to must be a minority and therefore we must be persecuted, and openly respecting me could lead those of dubious intelligence to think you were just like me and, well, that's an interesting twist on the road, isn't it?

No wonder I have such issues, I'm persecuted and didn't even know it.

Twists tend to be much more interesting than long straight highways.

[Ben Biscy]

LOL LOL LOL

Not everyone sees through the same set of blinders you do. It's a common misconception but erroneous nonetheless.

I rest my case.

[Jerhart]

I believe I did just state my opinion. It is ironic, however, that I accidentally hit refresh instead of home, though, and then moved on to read this post.

Stop instigating bs and pretending you are better than anyone else. You aren't.

Chill Bro...I just hate when people bicker.

There are newbs joining this site everyday who litter the front page with questions. Go answer some of their questions instead of acting like your the second coming of Francesco Petrarca.

[wolfy-hound]

I find it amazing that people really think they have the right to bash a site ON the site, and then think they should be allowed to continue bashing it, without any consequances.

This is NOT a right. This is a privately owned site, and techinally the site owner(or his designated moderators) can boot ANYONE off the site at ANY time for ANY reason. Rules or TOS notwithstanding.

Now having stated that, the TOS are pretty easy to follow. Stating your opinion is all fine and dandy until your opinion is breaking TOS. Even THEN the mods did not ban him, but asked him to remove the statement, more than once.

If people want a unmoderated forum that they can state whatever they want at any time, they'll have to go find one. On several sites I've been on, you'd have been booted on the first occasion.

[icygirl]

I find it amazing that people really think they have the right to bash a site ON the site, and then think they should be allowed to continue bashing it, without any consequances.

This is NOT a right. This is a privately owned site, and techinally the site owner(or his designated moderators) can boot ANYONE off the site at ANY time for ANY reason. Rules or TOS notwithstanding.

There you go. From what I've seen this site is not a democracy as far as the TOS and staff opinions go...

Not saying whether that's good or bad, but we all signed a contract (TOS) when we joined the site. I think the OP was trying to argue about the following...

3. No Hate Speak. This includes, but is not limited to: cursing; threats of violence; racial, religious, or sexual slurs; personal attacks; bear-baiting; and speech intended to cause or further a "flame war" or personal vendetta. This includes vindictive use of the Reputation System. Ultimately, it will be up to the staff (the mods and ultimately the admins) to determine if any given post or thread has crossed these lines.

...when it clearly is not up for debate. OP says Robin was bear-baiting, Judy says she wasn't. Judy wins. End of story. YOU agreed to it when you signed up for the site!

[Jenn]

For the love of god folks. Jerhart you have probably said the smartest thing on this thread. Let's try to remember that newbs are in fact reading our every word. Hey newbs come join in the fun?

Come on! Could we all just get back to the business of helping people?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Yeah of course certain opinions-statements can be against the TOS. I agree with that.. And with that I think some people need to go back and reread or rewrite the TOS.

So they fit each individual, like your boyfriend for example. Does that mean we would need many versions to accommodate each and every individual of this forum?

Makes sense.

Andrew was given a chance, he was asked to change his sig, HE chose not to, therefore he was ready and willing to accept the consequences of his action, should he have changed his sig he would still be a member here having a discussion on this thread with us.

Again posting here is a privilege not a right, you either agree to the TOS and play by the rules or you don’t, it's up to each and everyone of us.

I don't care what power someone holds.. The TOS should be followed by everyone..

If not, yeah it should be rewrote.

So does that mean they also apply to Andrew or does it means because Andrew disagree we should re-write everything to fit him as a member?

Interestingly, I do not see big companies, banks etc re-write their TOS because I or other people disagree with them.

We must not be living in the same world.

[Creeptastic]

I think it is so silly that these people are still on this forum if they think it is so unfair. There are many other forums out there, why not have a look?

[joepythons]

It's a shame you newbs don't know my past. I used to hear the mod forums humming when I'd join a site. I know what I'm talking about when I say these mods do a damn fine job at a difficult task.l.

You have a past ,do tell .

[AaronP]

Wilomn is my new favorite person.