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    22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    I know cages sizes have been covered over and over, but it appears there isn't really a general consensus.

    I'm really liking the idea of the divided 4ft RBI cage, but don't know if it'd be big enough (22x22). I've had my bp in a 40 breeder for years, but it kinda seems like overkill.

    I've seen the 3x2x1, but I have a small town home that is being taken over by my newborn daughter, and I like the idea of consolidating my two cages to one.

    I also live in Chicago and during the winter our indoor temps can hit 68 degrees so I've always used overhead heat.

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    -Is 22x22 sufficient for an adult male?
    -How would you suggest heating it given that our place can get as cool as 68 degrees?

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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    Because it gets so cold, you could try a radiant heat panel. Those are basically like insulated flexwatt.

    How big is your male? 22 by 22 sounds like plenty of room for a smaller full grown male, but probably not enough room for a gigantic female.
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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Because it gets so cold, you could try a radiant heat panel. Those are basically like insulated flexwatt.

    How big is your male? 22 by 22 sounds like plenty of room for a smaller full grown male, but probably not enough room for a gigantic female.
    I've never measured his length accurately, but I know he is under 4ft. His current weight is 1200 grams.

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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    Quote Originally Posted by therecordingart View Post
    I've never measured his length accurately, but I know he is under 4ft. His current weight is 1200 grams.
    whew that is a pretty big boy! Length doesn't really tell as much as weight does. It might be a little tight for a BP that size. You could give it a whirl though.
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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    whew that is a pretty big boy! Length doesn't really tell as much as weight does. It might be a little tight for a BP that size. You could give it a whirl though.
    Damn, that's what I thought. Thank you!

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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    22 x 22 gives you less floor space than a 32 Qt tub. A 32 Qt tub is the minimum I would think about for an adult male. I'd even go with a CB-70 for a male larger than 1500 grams, if you have one that big.
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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    22 x 22 gives you less floor space than a 32 Qt tub. A 32 Qt tub is the minimum I would think about for an adult male. I'd even go with a CB-70 for a male larger than 1500 grams, if you have one that big.
    According to Reptiles Basics a 32qt is 16 1/8" x 23 3/4" which is 382.96 square inches. 22" x 22" is 484 square inches. A CB-70 has 596 square inches of floor space.

    I'm now confused as to how much space is enough vs too much.

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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    Quote Originally Posted by therecordingart View Post
    According to Reptiles Basics a 32qt is 16 1/8" x 23 3/4" which is 382.96 square inches. 22" x 22" is 484 square inches. A CB-70 has 596 square inches of floor space.

    I'm now confused as to how much space is enough vs too much.
    In this case, I don't think it is a matter of "too much" rather than too little. You are right though, a 22 by 22 does have more floor space than a 32qt.

    Try setting up the space with the hides and other cage furnishings and see if the ball python would fit comfortably.
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    Re: 22x22 too small for an adult male bp?

    Quote Originally Posted by therecordingart View Post
    According to Reptiles Basics a 32qt is 16 1/8" x 23 3/4" which is 382.96 square inches. 22" x 22" is 484 square inches. A CB-70 has 596 square inches of floor space.

    I'm now confused as to how much space is enough vs too much.
    My bad, I was on the phone with my kids while I was posting that, and I was trying to math in my cranium...sorry for the bad info
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