What do you think this is

[adamsmasher]

http://s437.photobucket.com/albums/q...cture003-1.jpg

[Stewart_Reptiles]

well he dropped his price to 125

125 dollars is still very expensive, I would offer him 30 dollars for the BP and with the rest of the money you were about to spend I would buy the proper enclosure, thermostat, hides, UTH etc.

[adamsmasher]

hay are you ga ball pythons on another reptile forum?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

hay are you ga ball pythons on another reptile forum?

Yes

[adamsmasher]

the one with the green screen right, I forget the site

[Stewart_Reptiles]

the one with the green screen right, I forget the site

Yes, Reptic Zone

[adamsmasher]

yes! thats it!

[stevenkeogh]

A Pinstripe IS a heterozygous animal. Saying there is no such thing as a het pin or a het codom animal is false.
A "HET" codom is a morph, whereas a "HET" recessive is normal in appearance.
In the Pin's case the homozygous animal looks exactly like the hetero animal.
-Steven

[Stewart_Reptiles]

A Pinstripe IS a heterozygous animal. Saying there is no such thing as a het pin or a het codom animal is false.
A "HET" codom is a morph, whereas a "HET" recessive is normal in appearance.
In the Pin's case the homozygous animal looks exactly like the hetero animal.
-Steven

I know what you are saying and will agree to a degree.

In these case since the animal looks normal the poster wanted to know if it could be a normal looking animal het for pin which is IMPOSSIBLE a normal looking animal can only be het for a recessive trait.

Which mean in THIS case the animal is either a pin or it is not (this was the main idea of this thread)

[RandyRemington]

Yes this animal is not a pin but there is also such a thing as a heterozygous pin. Pinstripe is actually the reason it's more important than ever for ball python people to start understanding what "heterozygous" really means. It does not mean "normal looking hidden gene carrier", it just works out that way with recessive mutations. It also does not mean "half way to another morph", it just works out that way with co-dominant mutations (i.e. a pastel has a heterozygous genotype at the pastel locus, it isn't really correct to say it's heterozygous for super pastel).

As the first proven dominant mutation type in ball pythons we will now need a way to talk about the differences between het pinstripes and homozygous pinstripes that look the same. So understanding that "heterozygous" really means having an unmatched pair of genes at whatever location you are talking about you can see how a het albino, a pastel, and a het pinstripe all have that in common. How they look in relation to normal and their homozygous mutant forms is what defines the mutation type (recessive, co-dominant, and dominant). The important thing is understanding that they are still all hets and follow the same breeding results such as each baby having a 50/50 chance of getting the mutant copy from a het parent.