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Snake Breeding Loan
When you use your snake in a breeding loan:
What do you ask in return?
money / part of the clutch
What do you do if only one visual morph is produced?
Please give examples of your cases and what morphs where involved. ie, co-doms-co-doms, co-doms-normals ......
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
excellent quesiton!! i always wondered that. like if you have a het and put it with the recessive animal and only one recessive is produced who gets it?
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
All of these things will depend on the breeder and what the two partys agree to. Its different with every breeder loan. If you can find a breeder willing to do one.
Be warned though most breeder loans are geared in the breeders favor. Last money in first money out. Breeder picks first animal and gets the odd offspring should there be an odd number.
When you've got 10,000 people trying to do the same thing, why would you want to be number 10,001? ~ Mark Cuban "for the discerning collector"
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
The way my breeder and I agreed was owner of female picks first....odd number snake gets bought out by either party or sold and profit split unless the females first pick is a high priced animal...then the male owner gets the odd free and clear.
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
I had a thread up on loans a while ago and Heather posted the contract she had used. I pretty much used the same contract with some minor changes.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=66809
~*Rich
1.0 100% Het Albino
1.3 Normal
1.0 Spider
0.1 Mojave
1.0 Pastel 100% Het Goldfinger
0.1 Pastel 66% Het Goldfinger
0.1 Pastel PH Goldfinger
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
I've always looked at breeder loans by what the person brings to the loan....
For example, say I have a Albino Pied male and my friend wants to send his het pied female to me on breeder loan. I would look at it this way:
My investment - $15k + or -
My friends investment - $2k + or -
So my friend is contributing 15% of the total value of the pairing. Therefore I would set it up so that he receives 15% of total value of the offspring. (probably a least one pied het albino or a double het or pair of dbl hets... all depends on the clutch offspring)
I would also set it up so that whomever does the actual breeding work has the first pick of the clutch.
Just an example... hope it is helpful!
Justin
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
There are a lot of variables, and they're always different depending on the people/animals. I have one of my adult het albino girls out on breeding loan with someone right now. Myself and the breeder have agreed upon 50/50 of the snakes.
Next year I'll have a few worth while boys up to size that I'm going to have out on loan to people as well those may be different.
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
I was gonna put my Pastel male on breeding loan and I was gonna get a portion of the profit made and pick of the clutch. Basicly the same thing we did when we bred Labs when I was younger. Now since my spider is on the way in a few years I won't have to worrie about needing to find a female. I'll just need to get her big enough to breed.
1.0 BP VPI Pastel - Dante
0.1 BP Spider- Name Unknown (not shipped yet)
Hopefully another one soon!
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Sent out my females with a good friend and she asked me what i wanted them paired to and well that was all. But because most are normals and this is my first rodeo with BP's and breeder loans ill be fine with any lil babies i get and mind you i said good friend. I don't think i could send off any of my babies to someone i didn't know well
Tim Johnson
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Re: Snake Breeding Loan
So far i have only loaned out males. and they were Lechies(Giant Gecko) not snakes. I have no problem loaning out snakes though. But it would have to be local.
And if i loan out a male i wouldn't expect a 50/50 split of the babies. Since the female does most of the work the other person should recieve most of the reward. And it also depends on the litter. If there is only 1 visual morph present i would just ask for a couple hets.
If someone wanted one of my females they would have to bring the male to me.
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