Minimum Number Of Posts Before Letting Someone Post In For Sale Section

[blackcrystal22]

Righto!

Look at me 5,555+ posts in 1 1/2 years. Not many people can do that LOL.

Hey I can! When I was an admin on this forum called TTFF, I had over 10 thousand posts, and they reset all of the numbers.
But I HAVE to make my posts meaningful.. I hate when people are just like 'cool', 'nice pickup'.
Which I catch myself doing sometimes, but I do my best to add details of importance to my posts.

Also, it's sometimes hard to check up on who they are buying from if they are a new seller. For example, who am I to reference when I start selling? People I bought from? Honestly, I'm not too sure, because we all have to start somewhere, and I hope that I can sell to good people as well as purchase from good people.

There are scammers that buy too everyone. Those, I find to be the ugliest at times.

[m00kfu]

Righto!

Look at me 5,555+ posts in 1 1/2 years. Not many people can do that LOL.

Hey I can! When I was an admin on this forum called TTFF, I had over 10 thousand posts, and they reset all of the numbers.
But I HAVE to make my posts meaningful.. I hate when people are just like 'cool', 'nice pickup'.
Which I catch myself doing sometimes, but I do my best to add details of importance to my posts.

On the other side of the fence are people like me. I've been lurking around the site for roughly 2 years, a member for around a year, and posting for only a month or two. I tend to not be super talkative and won't usually make a post unless I have something useful to add to a conversation. On top of that, even if I DO have something useful to add -- if it's something that's fairly common knowledge, something that I know is likely to be mentioned by someone else, I usually won't bother to make the post.

[wolfy-hound]

Contributing. Not contributing by XX posts in XX time. That means that you would have to change the rules to define exactly how much contributing someone has to do in order to qualify.
Technically, by posting an AD a person has contributed to the site, as ads do draw attention, and ads can get someone on the site a new snake they want, and ads can give someone on the site funds from a sale.
Sorry. You want it enforced in a NEW way, therefor requiring a rewrite of the definition, therefor a change in the rules.
But, hey, nice try.

[rabernet]

Also, it's sometimes hard to check up on who they are buying from if they are a new seller. For example, who am I to reference when I start selling? People I bought from? Honestly, I'm not too sure, because we all have to start somewhere, and I hope that I can sell to good people as well as purchase from good people.

Jess, by your participation here, people are getting to know you - and you are more likely to get a sale from other members here. That's how you start building your reputation.

When someone joins here and makes their first post in the for sale section and you've never heard of them, and you click their post and see it's their only post, are you saying that your that naive (how you described yourself) that you would consider their ad without doing more legwork on them?

Is an animal that might interest you more important that protecting yourself by doing the extra work in vetting them?

My first major purchase after I had my first ball python was when I was still relatively new as well. I didn't know the seller, his site was very pretty and impressive. I loved his animals. I still checked BOI on him, and he had great references. I also asked Adam of 8ball if he knew of him and Kara of NERD if she knew of him. Kara told me that while she had not personally purchased from him, she knew people who had, and had nothing negative to say of the transaction.

The pretty snakes that I really hoped I could get were not enough to make me make the purchase. It wasn't until I independently verified their legitimacy before I ever contacted him (and have since made multiple purchases from and shared my experiences on Fauna).

That's my point. You recognize that you are naive - but you HAVE to protect yourself.

[frankykeno]

Robin's point and others in that vein are important to note. Even if we change a rule here or there, seperate forums, make minimums for posting in for sales ads - you still cannot and should not as a newcomer think that means this person is okay and you should send them your money.

Like it's been said, you have to be a proactive purchaser. You need to do that whether it's an ad here, an ad elsewhere, a snake at a show, or down the street at PetCo. If we as staff can do something to help you, that's cool and as staff we are discussing this but it will never replace your own responsibility to check, doublecheck and then check again because in the end - it is your money or your snake involved in the deal.

[Wh00h0069]

I hate when people are just like 'cool', 'nice pickup'.

I actually like when I submit a picture to the forum and people reply with "nice animal," or "congrats." It really sucks when you put a picture of you animal on and no one replies. If everyone had the mentality of not replying unless they had more to say, then no one would ever reply to someone’s pictures.

[Debbienflorida]

My .......I am not sure the # of posts is relevant...........some have the gift of gab and some don't...............

[Mike Cavanaugh]

Technically, by posting an AD a person has contributed to the site, as ads do draw attention, and ads can get someone on the site a new snake they want, and ads can give someone on the site funds from a sale.

You are reaching pretty far with this one.

When someone's first post is selling several morphs at normal market price, they are not in any way shape or form contributing to this site. They are only taking advantage of a feature that is not meant for them to use yet. By reading the rules of the for sale section it is clear that it is for contributing members use only. NOT a way for someone to run a free business.

Perhaps Wolfy you should ask the ADMIN why they felt it necessary to make such a rule in the first place? Maybe if you think the rule is so wrong you should direct your concerns to them?

[frankykeno]

This thread is about a discussion which every member has a right to participate in, to have an opinion about and to express their thoughts publically on. Nobody needs to come to Admin about any of this unless they themselves feel the need to.

Admin as well as Mods are reading, participating and monitoring this thread - just like we do with any thread in any forum on this site.

[casperca]

Here's a thought, and I'm really not trying to be silly, but whatever your personal thresh-hold is for minimal post counts is, why not just choose NOT to respond to ads that don't have your personal minimal count?

If someone pops on here and only posts ads, and I don't know who they are - I'm not likely to do business with them.

Just a thought.

This was my thought exactly when I read the opening post. There are acceptions to every trend and I don't feel it is fair to punish the newcomers or less-talkative members that may be honest sellers. The resonsibility ultimately lies with you, changing the rules on one forum won't nessicarily fix the problem. That's just my .