Well I thought this day would never come, but our BP finally took a F/T rat! I was convinced on several occasions that she was one of those that would NEVER convert from live. I don't really know why I am posting because I don't really have a secret conversion method to share. Just persistence. Trust me, I have tried all of the posted methods and they didn't work. On this particular attempt I think she was just really hungry and I held the f/t there until my arm about fell off. Finally she struck. Scared me to death because it was the last thing I was expecting. So persistence pays off. I think hunger (a.k.a tough love) also helps a lot.