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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    Ideally they would have to regulate the chipping of animals.

    If we are trying to use microchips to prove the validity of hets, someone has to regulate the chips and possibly provide proof of the chippee's genetics.

    Overall I think it would be very hard to do, specifically since people are already going their own chipping. With a higher body I still think it would be very hard to assure the validity of a het.

    Also Heather you frequently bring up good discussion topics

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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    Quote Originally Posted by ctrlfreq View Post
    Most large breeders already do this.
    I meant routinely chippng them not just offering the option at extra cost.
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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    But if not you, do you see it as a benefit for other people to know that there is physical evidence this animal is what YOU believe it to be?
    Unless the chip registry also contains information about the original breeder, and the composition of the animal, it all still goes back to trust. Even if we could institute a registry that everyone trusted as a definitive source, there would be a many hurdles that would hinder adoption, such as:

    1) The lack of a map of the BP genome to identify the genetic traits being mapped (phenotypes are notoriously unreliable for judging genetic makeup).

    2) The composition of designer morphs, where known, are often considered trade secrets, which the breeders would be reluctant to disclose. I don't think NERD, for instance, would ever disclose the contents of an Inferno, either on the chip or in a registry.

    3) The only way to determine the actual genetic makeup of a particular animal is through breeding over time, which is roughly 2-3 years too late in most cases to identify the animal via the embedded chip.


    Like I said before, I see the benefit in chipping animals for identification purposes, but don't see the same benefit when it comes to discerning genetic makeup.

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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    I believe a picture and photo records kept on your computer/website/printed for your records would achieve 99% of the benefits that micro-chipping would, with the exception of tracking.

    I'm anti micro chip.

    JonV

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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    "They" chip "registered" dogs, don't they? Who regulates the registration and chipping of dogs? How does that work? Maybe the ideas "they" have set would transfer to the snakie world?
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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    Quote Originally Posted by cassandra View Post
    "They" chip "registered" dogs, don't they? Who regulates the registration and chipping of dogs?
    The short answer is, whoever you pay to do it. When you chip any animal, there are two associated costs... 1) the cost of the chip ($25+), and 2) the cost of registering the chip and animal combination with one of the databases that animal shelters and veterinarians have access to.

    Even with a centralized system, things aren't all peachy though. Even though a new chip hasn't been released in years, there are multiple standards, not all of which are compatible with the same readers, so even if you chip your animal, there is a chance it won't be seen by the reader being used to scan.

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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    Yep, it all depends on the person who buys that animal and if they sign up for the registry. If they don't, then it's just useless other than identification in a large collection.

    And to whoever said they are against chipping, why? It doesn't cause cancer or any other negative impact.. It's like people with pieces of bullet or shrapnel in their skin, it doesn't cause problems and the body just walls it off.
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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    couldnt we just plug the snake into a USB?

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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    Quote Originally Posted by bigballs View Post
    couldnt we just plug the snake into a USB?
    Ha! Get with the new technology! My snakes are all sold 100% firewire compatible.

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    Re: Microchipping your Hets

    Quote Originally Posted by nevohraalnavnoj View Post
    Get with the new technology! My snakes are all sold 100% firewire compatible.
    Yeah! Get with the program!*

    (* oh wait, usb is faster than firewire)

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