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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
Originally Posted by Desert
Mazuri uses it as a filler? That's interesting information. Would you mind citing any references that corroborate this? Thanks.
I'm sorry, are you doubting that rats cannot digest alfalfa? I wont make this case for you, do your own research. I use only Mazuris 6F for all of my rats. Alfalfa is low on the list for ingredients, meaning that not much is used and it is not one of the main ingredients. If you dont like that answer, find your own.
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
Originally Posted by littleindiangirl
I'm sorry, are you doubting that rats cannot digest alfalfa? I wont make this case for you, do your own research. I use only Mazuris 6F for all of my rats. Alfalfa is low on the list for ingredients, meaning that not much is used and it is not one of the main ingredients. If you dont like that answer, find your own.
I suppose my answer to your inquiry about the alfalfa needs an addendum. Rats can digest some parts of alfalfa, but not well. They do process the protein from alfalfa comparatively well, but the grasses and certain parts of alfalfa isn't.
There are many, many journals out there with a lot of different takes on how rats digest certain parts and extracts of alfalfa, and with a description of 'alfalfa meal' on the ingredients list, we can't be sure what product of alfalfa is being fed.
It's generally a good rule of thumb that kaytee and generic brands of rat feed with alfalfa (being the main ingredient) is different from mazuris in how it's processed and used in the feed.
Mazuri is still undoubtedly one of the best feeds on the market, second to Harlan and Oxbow.
Feed low in alfalfa is better than one based solely on alfalfa.
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
I feed diamond dog food.....the maintainance formula....it is just big enough it sits on the 1/2 in screen great! The only appreciable difference in nutrition between it and lab blocks is that it is a little low on fiber. So I give them stuff like dry pasta, and things for that. Then give my nursing mamas straight beef fat to make there milk richer. I've had no problems so far....
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
Originally Posted by littleindiangirl
I'm sorry, are you doubting that rats cannot digest alfalfa?
No need to apologise, I'm happy to clarify. I had asked you to corroborate your statement that Mazuri uses the alfalfa meal as a filler, by citing a reference.
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
Originally Posted by TheMissingLink
Thats some expencive stuff! Is it pelated like Lab blocks?
Go Mazuri!
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
Originally Posted by Desert
No need to apologise, I'm happy to clarify. I had asked you to corroborate your statement that Mazuri uses the alfalfa meal as a filler, by citing a reference.
Riiiiiight.... did you even read my posts? I dont owe you anything I'm afraid. It was a suggestion or better, an idea that it is a filler... I honestly don't care if you want a reference or not. Why don't you email Purina and ask them?
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
i find it interesting that the oxbow site sells the regal rat food as adult PET rat food.it seems to me that 14% protein and 4% fat are a bit low for breeders.
how long have you been using it? i guess if it works well that's all that counts.
sometimes i think that the popular "accepted" %'s are just a rough guide line.my rats seem to do great on a variety of different feeds i've used over the years.have fun!
Originally Posted by TheMissingLink
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
Originally Posted by twh
i find it interesting that the oxbow site sells the regal rat food as adult PET rat food.it seems to me that 14% protein and 4% fat are a bit low for breeders.
how long have you been using it? i guess if it works well that's all that counts.
sometimes i think that the popular "accepted" %'s are just a rough guide line.my rats seem to do great on a variety of different feeds i've used over the years.have fun!
I whole heartedly agree with this. Pet rats aren't being used mainly for breeding and dont need the same amounts as breeders. It's usually best to go with a higher percentage of protein for nursing mothers. A lot of people have success up to 18%- 20% protein, given that no skin problems occur.
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Re: Dog Food For Rats?
Originally Posted by littleindiangirl
Riiiiiight.... did you even read my posts? I dont owe you anything I'm afraid. It was a suggestion or better, an idea that it is a filler... I honestly don't care if you want a reference or not. Why don't you email Purina and ask them?
You made an authoritative statement about an important product. You were asked to back it up with a reference. You responded with childish sarcasm and condescention along the path towards downgrading your statement from that of fact, to an idea. Thankyou for the clarification.
While I don't understand why a search for the truth would generate the childishness I've witnessed here, I will suggest that simply redressing your statement at the onset would have been a more prudent (and polite) choice for you.
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