How Low?

[xdeus]

Everyone with lessers for sale IS NOT going to just up and drop their price to 2500 just cause one guy did it. Make sense? Go shoot RDR an email and see if he'll give you a lesser for 2500. YEAH RIGHT!

True, but he won't get anything near what he planned on getting for them. Ball prices roughly drop 50% a season, not 90%. I'm sure the big breeders were planning on pricing their Lessers in the $10,000-$15,000 range this season. Now that people know there are $2,500 Lessers to be had, how many people will be looking to buy a $10,000 Lesser? And even if Ralph dropped the price to $5,000, most potential buyers will wonder where the floor is and if they should wait.

I think Morph King should change their name to King of the Jimmys...

[elevatethis]

I don't agree that co-doms drop as quickly as 50% per year (not sure where you are getting your #s) but I do agree with you that public sales like that really do create a lot of skepticism that is overall a "bad" thing.

Damn why's Adam gotta be on vacation during this....I'm sure when he gets back he can really put it into perspective for us.

[Freakie_frog]

is this kind of drop only on co-dom and dom or do the ressessive suffer the same fate?

[Wild Bill]

I guarantee when he goes to buy the next "big morph" from another breeder they won't sell it to him.

[Freakie_frog]

unless he imports

[Wild Bill]

unless he imports

I am talking about someone producing something like a super stripe, if he doesn't have the genetics they won't sell it to him. I doubt importing is gonna help him much.

[Mendel's Balls]

I guarantee when he goes to buy the next "big morph" from another breeder they won't sell it to him.

He could always go through an intermediate as well. (Hire a purchaser.)

[elevatethis]

is this kind of drop only on co-dom and dom or do the ressessive suffer the same fate?

Co-doms can be produced in the first generation of offspring when bred to normals. Same with dominante genes.

Recessives are harder to hit because you are playing more of an odds game. Homozygous x het gives you a 50/50 chance, het x het gives you a 1/4 chance, etc etc


I'm kind of afraid when people start getting greedy with recessives and crossing homozygous x homozygous sibs left and right and don't outcross their bloodlines. Now we're talking about quality issues. Co-doms are generally strong because they are crossed with normals so often. You could see a bunch of weak albinos, kinked caramels, etc. I could see overall quality decreasing. Do any of you think a breeder looking to make quick cash with a pair of albinos or caramels or pied cares about the bloodline at all? Tell me then....would you buy from Jimmy, MKR, or someone better?

[Freakie_frog]

I only hope the other breeders are on this someone needs to call Raph and Bob and Adam and NERD and let them know. If they don't already.

[Freakie_frog]

Co-doms can be produced in the first generation of offspring when bred to normals. Same with dominante genes.

Recessives are harder to hit because you are playing more of an odds game. Homozygous x het gives you a 50/50 chance, het x het gives you a 1/4 chance, etc etc


I'm kind of afraid when people start getting greedy with recessives and crossing homozygous x homozygous sibs left and right and don't outcross their bloodlines. Now we're talking about quality issues. Co-doms are generally strong because they are crossed with normals so often. You could see a bunch of weak albinos, kinked caramels, etc. I could see overall quality decreasing. Do any of you think a breeder looking to make quick cash with a pair of albinos or caramels or pied cares about the bloodline at all? Tell me then....would you buy from Jimmy, MKR, or someone better?

Mods excuse me on this one. HELL no I would never buy from a Jimmy quality over morph any day of any week. You trade quality for the morph and you pay for it in the long run. I would rather pay 25,000.00 to get a lesser from Adam or Ralph and know that I got a great snake than pay 2500.00 and worry about over inbreeding and long term health problems caused by the like.