Update on Fluffy's clutch + pics

[Laooda]

Wow, This is gettin' good.... Time machine anyone!?!?

[jglass38]

Well they might be in a plastic tub but does that make the female any less able to take care of her eggs? But the conditions in the encloser would play apart in the hole thing. There is still some techneq involved in both. I think it will work out, but we will see. I wish you the best of luck.

I think everyone is missing the point. Yes, maternal incubation can be successful. Yes, it is the only way that eggs hatch in the wild. However, these are snakes in captivity, kept in plastic enclosures with heating elements plugged into a wall. This is not nature or the great outdoors. Why put the snake through any more than she needs to be? Its just not necessary.

[JimiSnakes]

Boas don't need artificial incubation. So there! Boas can do it...BP's can do it. I am just being sarcastic...don't mind me. Hope it works for ya. I love it when others are wrong...guess you can say I always route for the under dog.

One thing I like about this site is that the people here are open to ideas as long as it isn't harming the snake. This, imo, isn't doing that. He is just letting a snake do it's thing naturally. There is nothing wrong with that. GTP's do a much better job incubating their own eggs than we can artificially. It may not be easier for the breeder, but it's not unethical...therefore, it shouldn't be knocked.

[jglass38]

Boas don't need artificial incubation. So there! Boas can do it...BP's can do it. I am just being sarcastic...don't mind me. Hope it works for ya. I love it when others are wrong...guess you can say I always route for the under dog.

One thing I like about this site is that the people here are open to ideas as long as it isn't harming the snake. This, imo, isn't doing that. He is just letting a snake do it's thing naturally. There is nothing wrong with that. GTP's do a much better job incubating their own eggs than we can artificially. It may not be easier for the breeder, but it's not unethical...therefore, it shouldn't be knocked.

If you find a way to artifically incubate Boas, lemme know. That would be something!! I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one Jimi!

[JimiSnakes]

Love and war? or Love to War? haha. Deal

[max123]

Thats why I said that the conditions in the the tube would play a part, becouse it isnt nature. But its not like its not in the snake to be able to do it. Its in its nature. Just becouse she's in a tub doesnt mean she lost her instincts. It might not be necessary but it works. As long as she can recover or even take the next year off if need be I dont think it would be a big deal. But I am not talking from experience, just my . So take it as you may.

[Ginevive]

I would never do maternal incubation. Knowing the humidity levels those eggs need, I would be afraid the mom could possibly develop belly rot if the substrate were kept that moist, to retain that much humidity..

[JimiSnakes]

I would never do maternal incubation. Knowing the humidity levels those eggs need, I would be afraid the mom could possibly develop belly rot if the substrate were kept that moist, to retain that much humidity..

Good point!

[Rapture]

I would never do maternal incubation. Knowing the humidity levels those eggs need, I would be afraid the mom could possibly develop belly rot if the substrate were kept that moist, to retain that much humidity..

She did not lay on moist substrate nor do I moisten the substrate below her or the eggs. She is actually hardly on much substrate at all now, it is almost all around her. All I do to keep the humidity up is give her a large water dish and mist inside the tank daily, mostly on the inside walls of the aquarium. One thing I do remember reading in a maternal incubation article is to keep the substrate under the eggs dry.

[tigerlily]

I'm not trying to say maternal incubation can not be done, but there is no benefit to the mother or eggs. In the wild a female can very precisely choose the location to lay her clutch, in a tub she is extememly limited. In a tub, the mother will be much more affected by long term increase in humidity as well.

I wish you the best of luck with those eggs, and I hope they all hatch.