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View Poll Results: Do you think breeding hybrid snakes is wrong?

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  • Yes-It's like "playing God"

    13 5.96%
  • Yes-For another reason though

    30 13.76%
  • No and I would consider owning a hybrid

    133 61.01%
  • No, but I would never own a hybrid

    9 4.13%
  • Not sure /undecided

    33 15.14%
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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Hehe...I like it too. I enjoy reading his thoughts.


    And kudos for BP.net! Where else in the Internet herp world can you have a discussion about hybrids go on this long without needing a single curse word, flame, or moderator interference? You guys rock!
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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Quote Originally Posted by xdeus
    So let me get this straight... the Derma ball has sickle cell anemia?
    How long do you think before that makes it into a post on KS? Gotta love the internet!

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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Quote Originally Posted by xdeus
    So let me get this straight... the Derma ball has sickle cell anemia?
    You know that it doesnt have sickle cell...stop pulling my leg.

    Anyway I was just saying that a gene that causes "disease" or "health" problems can also have beneifical effects for the population.....its about trade-offs......the allele that causes sickle cell anemina leads is essentailly lethal (without medical care) in its homozygous state....however, in its hetrozygous state it has advantages-increased resistance to malaria....this is why its maintained and prevalent in certain human populations....

    The same logic can be applicable to any BP trait...maybe spinning (if true) has advantages.....maybe kinks, backflips, etc do too.....

    What appears to be a disadvantage can often have hidden advantages.....and most biological systems have back-ups like Adam said...if one system fails it not such a bad thing because there are still other systems that can function in place of or compensate for it.....

    Hope that is clearer to the main point I was trying to make.
    Last edited by Mendel's Balls; 05-24-2006 at 01:16 PM.
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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
    stop pulling my leg.
    You're kidding right?

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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
    Gene pools in the wild are never really pure and that's a good thing, Variety allows for natural selection.....an organism with the same set of alleles at all loci is one that is likely to go extinct .

    A good example of that is the cheetah population. They have become so genetically similiar that you can take skin graphs from one animal and it will take on another because the genetics are basically identical. The big fear is that one major illness/problem will wipe out the remaining animals.

    I never knew that about the sickle cell anemia and malaria. Interesting.

    Finally those genetics classes pay off! Of course this is not the place I thought I'd be using them. Well, I'll take what I can get.
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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Does anyone here have a link with a pic of this infamous "Derma Ball"?????...I'd like to check it out....
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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Quote Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady
    Does anyone here have a link with a pic of this infamous "Derma Ball"?????...I'd like to check it out....
    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/pp_c...&cat=10&page=1
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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Just curious, do no scales on the derma ball make it easier to be scratched/hurt when you feed it rats?
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    Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    Personally I love this thread whether it heads off on a tangent or two. That's what a good full discussion often does. We relate issues with our own snakes or the breeding of snakes in general to our life experience or knowledge base.

    Like Judy said, I'm so pleased and proud of our online community that manages to discuss some of these more "hot buttom" issues in a reasonable manner.
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    Talking Re: Ethics of Hybrids

    I think its like people kinda....
    White ppl breed with Black ppl, and chinese with whatever...

    Same idea I think!
    If we can do it, why can't the snakes do it????

    Just my

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