Pied-$$??

[shavemycoinpurse]

One thing about the pied is that they are extremely variable in appearance.


So a collector who is into pieds is going to likely want a little of each (high-white, med-white, low-white).

The other thing about price to consider is that people will either charge what the market demands or what they are comfortable with in terms of profit. If you want to charge $1,000 less than the "going-rate" - that's your perogative as the seller. There will always be a lower price, given the demand though - I'd say this is a seller's market.

Going the possible Het/Het route is definately taking the conservative route - it really comes down to how quickly you want to produce visible morphs.

[MARCUS ANTONIUS]

Same thing for Spiders, just a few months back $5000 seemed to be the benchmark. Now, I see them for $3000-$3500, which means $2800 when you get down to it. Is it desperation in some sellers?

Sorry, but I didn't really understand this... What does "$2800 when you get down to it" mean? Does that mean profits - costs = $2800? I just didn't really get it....

[ssscales]

All fun a side, I don't think I got an answer to the price tag or expected price tag of Pied's this year end? I know there is nothing set in stone, but what is the expected going rate for a nice 06 Piebald?

[kavmon]

my guess for a "nice" pied from a good breeder 5-6k?



vaughn

[SnakeySnakeSnake]

I think what some of you are forgetting is that not everyone who sells is a big breeder. If Adam is selling a pastel for $1200, and I want to sell one just like his, I cant list it at $1200 or people will buy his instead of mine, because of his reputation, and it is well deserved.

The problem is, I have 3 snakes, and still need to sell mine. So instead i sell mine for $1000. I dont have the rep, I dont have the fancy boxes, but I'm still an honest guy, so Im hoping to at least get near market price.

Would you consider that undercutting? Or trying to make a quick buck? I wouldnt.

[ssscales]

Sorry, but I didn't really understand this... What does "$2800 when you get down to it" mean? Does that mean profits - costs = $2800? I just didn't really get it....

What I meant was, usually when a seller is showing desperation out the gate by advertising a $4000-$5000 snake for example (assuming it's not a scam) for $3000 or offering some weekend sale after 3 days. Once you get that seller on the phone and offer $2800 via paypal to their account before the call is over, you'll probably get it for $2800.

You'd be surprised what the words "PayPal" can do to some sellers.
It's like the guy who will take $500 cash Vs a check for $600.

[Adam_Wysocki]

usually when a seller is showing desperation out the gate by advertising a $4000-$5000 snake for example (assuming it's not a scam) for $3000 or offering some weekend sale after 3 days.

You've made a great point.

If a seller has to drop prices and under cut the market out of desperation, what do you think that seller is going to do if something happens during shipping and the snake shows up dead? How about if your "cheap" investment dies 3 days after you get it, or shows up with RI?

Do you think it will be easy to get a refund? Or do you think that the seller is going to b!tch and moan and avoid your calls because he "needs" that money?

Also, how much time do you think that seller is going to spend with you if you have problems months or years later getting that animal to breed? Do you think that the guy/gal is going to spend hours on the phone with you going over "secrets" for getting males/females "in the mood" and doing their thing?

A deal is only a deal if EVERYTHING goes perfectly. For me, I'd rather pay a little bit more and do business with someone that is going to stand behind their animal.

-adam

[xdeus]

Do you think that the guy/gal is going to spend hours on the phone with you going over "secrets" for getting males/females "in the mood" and doing their thing?

There are secrets?! Damn, I have to get you on the horn!

[Wild Bill]

I think when it comes down to it there are 4 types of people that do this.

1. the scammer
2. the questionable breeder trying to get rid of the animal
3. the person that is having financial problems
4. the small time breeder trying to get his name out there

It is our job as consumers to find out where they fall into these categories and decide if the gain outweighs the risk with each. I personally would be more comfortable making the purchase if they fell into category 4.

[jglass38]

I think when it comes down to it there are 4 types of people that do this.

1. the scammer
2. the questionable breeder trying to get rid of the animal
3. the person that is having financial problems
4. the small time breeder trying to get his name out there

It is our job as consumers to find out where they fall into these categories and decide if the gain outweighs the risk with each. I personally would be more comfortable making the purchase if they fell into category 4.

The problem is how do you differentiate? I don't think the answer to getting your name out there is undercutting the competition. Become active on the forums, answer questions for people and show through your actions that you are a quality person and worth dealing with.