What will happen when everyone realizes...

[daniel1983]

i see the big picture now

But....won't all those things eventually happen anyway?

[Adam_Wysocki]

i see the big picture now

But....won't all those things eventually happen anyway?

Not if we're lucky ... sooner or later the "mania" will die down and we'll fall into a nice pace ... it's happened in the exotic bird market and with any luck it'll happen to us as well.

Gotta shake the fly by nighters loose first ... then it's smooth sailing.

-adam

[JimiSnakes]

The whole gov't idea sold me. They would love to have something new to tax. Adam has a very good point on that. Snakes are probably one of the most feared animals out there...and neighbors don't want a hundred or more in the house next door either. The govt in NY already proved they can do what they want because of a few incidences. Think of the dogs that attack children every year! They don't outlaw dogs in general, but they do snakes. Think of the insurance clauses that would arise from you having a snake in your house! Keep it where it is.

[jglass38]

Jim,

If I'm correct, didn't they end up restructuring that bill to only include (as it effects us snake owners) large Boids (Burms, Rocks, Retics, Anacondas)? Also, is it a statewide ban or is it just NYC?

[JimiSnakes]

Statewide, and that was after a year or more of petitions and protests. They wanted to ban a WHOLE lot more than just the big ones. All pythons, BCIs, and some others that got over six feet too, but they ended up just banning those that got huge and almost all hots (only permit allowed now and that is impossible to get).

I was only trying to use it as an example though. It only proves the point more.

Also, how many dogs have bitten children? Certain types of dogs aren't banned. It's said it's the owners fault or the dog was neglected. Pit Bulls are a good example. In Syracuse there is at LEAST 10 or more pit bull attacks in the city alone a year...they aren't banned.

[jglass38]

I dont think anyone will argue the fact that dogs, birds and cats are way more dangerous to humans (disease, bites, etc) than non venomous snakes. But they are accepted by people as "ok" pets to have.

[Danielle(THM)]

I see where Adam is coming from, education and interest probably shouldn't be built on how expensive and beautiful the morphs are, but just by correct information and slow exposure, as it's moving now. By flaunting morphs it's going to upset people, as was stated before, making them envy those who can afford such a steep price tag for a beautiful animal. If people are upset, it's going to lead to more restrictions, which is bad for any of us. I don't see what the big deal is, reptiles aren't gross, most are cute, and they're cleaner and don't have to get out for hours of exercise, they don't poo all over the house, or chew you stuff...the list goes on.

[daniel1983]

.... they don't poo all over the house, or chew you stuff.

Funny story....before me and my wife moved into our apartment, we asked the owner if he allowed pets. He was like "Well, what kinda pets?"....I responded "some little 4' snakes"....He said "they are ok.....I will not have to worry about them pooping and peeing on the carpet and tearing up stuff"...LMAO...I really did not expect that kinda answer....but all is good

[tigerlily]

Also, how many dogs have bitten children? Certain types of dogs aren't banned. It's said it's the owners fault or the dog was neglected. Pit Bulls are a good example. In Syracuse there is at LEAST 10 or more pit bull attacks in the city alone a year...they aren't banned.

Yes, some dog types are banned. I was watching one of those Animal Cops show, and pits are banned in some counties in FL. I think in other areas as well, where dog fighting is such a problem. And you're right it's not the dog's fault, that was how they were trained. But you blame the animal not the person. I love pits. They have been some of the nicest dogs I've met. I don't see anyone banning those little nippy lap dogs, which are WAY more likely to bite. Anyway, I just figure if they can start banning some animals, then more and more will follow. I prefer to make my own decisions, not have the government make them for me.

[JimiSnakes]

I don't see anyone banning those little nippy lap dogs, which are WAY more likely to bite.

I totally agree! I hate those f**** things! My daughter was bit in the face on Christmas night by a Min. Pinscher! 7 stitches in her perfect little face. I wanted to strangle everyone in the room. They were really lucky I wasn't there. It was her mother's turn to have her Xmas day and they were at her grandmother's house. They all swear that for no reason at all it just turned and bit her while she watching TV. Hatem Hatem Hatem Hatem. An old lady owned it and it had never shown any signs of aggression before this. Stupid dogs.

PS: Sorry this went off topic.