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    Re: Trouble with hognose RI not responding to antibiotics

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    Wouldn't hurt to bring it up with the vet. Personally, I'd love to know what a qualified herp vet thinks of this method.
    So would I, actually.
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    There actually is one of the products that is recommended/intended for wound flushes and nebulizing... But it is not the one that reptile owners were using as a treatment.
    It is specifically the F10 antiseptic solution.

    Any of the basic F10, SC, CL or sterilant should never be used as an animal treatment product. Only a surface, item or area disinfectant.
    Last edited by Armiyana; 03-06-2024 at 11:54 AM.

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    Re: Trouble with hognose RI not responding to antibiotics

    Quote Originally Posted by Armiyana View Post
    There actually is one of the products that is recommended/intended for wound flushes and nebulizing... But it is not the one that reptile owners were using as a treatment.
    It is specifically the F10 antiseptic solution.

    Any of the basic F10, SC, CL or sterilant should never be used as an animal treatment product. Only a surface, item or area disinfectant.
    Thanks for clarifying that- I haven't kept up on F10 product variations, & what I saw being used & recommended online for nebulizing (incorrectly) was the surface disinfectant. And word (good or bad) gets around fast online...

    I wonder if that antiseptic solution was always around back when the idea started, or if the makers of F10 felt compelled to create it after so many were trying to nebulize with the surface cleaner? Anyway, let's all try to be clear about what exactly we are recommending when giving advice- as in "first do no harm".
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    I'm pretty sure F10 only started producing it after the fact. They have a line of treatment products now so who knows what originally started it. If it was a knee jerk response to reptile keepers then at least they can say 'please use this' since as you said... Word travels fast.

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    Nebulization of both antibiotics and F10 is apparently fairly well established in small mammals (rats, rabbits) and birds (the latter of which is the basis for extending that treatment to non-avian reptiles). There seems to be very little published info on this in herps, but Maders Reptile Medicine mentions the procedure and gives some instructions.

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    Re: Trouble with hognose RI not responding to antibiotics

    Quote Originally Posted by Malum Argenteum View Post
    Nebulization of both antibiotics and F10 is apparently fairly well established in small mammals (rats, rabbits) and birds (the latter of which is the basis for extending that treatment to non-avian reptiles). There seems to be very little published info on this in herps, but Maders Reptile Medicine mentions the procedure and gives some instructions.
    Our vets advised me to nebulise diluted F10 with my Royal Python with Ri .

    I diluted as per instructions

    1 : 250 ( water)


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    Re: Trouble with hognose RI not responding to antibiotics

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Our vets advised me to nebulise diluted F10 with my Royal Python with Ri .

    I diluted as per instructions

    1 : 250 ( water)


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    Yes, that is the dilution noted in Maders.

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    Any update on your hognose, @SeaPancake ?

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