Low white pied? Het? Or paradox?

[Bloody Mary]

I got these two clutch mates as black nightmare YB and black nightmare enchi.
But I’m questioning if the BN/YB could be a low white pied because the BN/enchi looks like a het with the tracks. Maybe I’m wrong and it’s just a neat paradox? BN/YB has clean white belly.





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[Armiyana]

Ringers can be pretty common popups. A lot of times it doesn't really mean anything. Especially when you have a morph like blk pastel or cinnamon with orange dream in the mix. Champagne is another that makes ringers a lot.

But since they are black pastel...maybe? It could help to see the whole pattern on the snakes not just the tail end. Orange Dream does tend to make perfect belly tracks so I wouldn't judge them by that.

The only way to know for sure would be to breed them to a pied or have the shed skin tested for Pied.

[Bloody Mary]

Ringers can be pretty common popups. A lot of times it doesn't really mean anything. Especially when you have a morph like blk pastel or cinnamon with orange dream in the mix. Champagne is another that makes ringers a lot.

But since they are black pastel...maybe? It could help to see the whole pattern on the snakes not just the tail end. Orange Dream does tend to make perfect belly tracks so I wouldn't judge them by that.

The only way to know for sure would be to breed them to a pied or have the shed skin tested for Pied.

The first two are the YB, the second is the enchi. The YB has a pure white belly, nothing on it at all. Here’s some of the YB (F)





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[Armiyana]

I think there definitely could be something going on cause a lot of the pattern is pretty busy on both. But there's really nothing that screams pied to me on the enchi. Maybe het pied but it's still something you're probably better off testing for.