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    Re: Where to place the probe

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    ...we have a corn snake and he likes to lie a little uncoiled in his hides so we got him hides that were for his size. Yesterday, the gentleman at the aquatics and reptiles told us to get smaller hides. I honestly stood there and was like...this is going to be such a waste of money...there is no way Lomu will fit in there. We bought 2 different hides...grey one that is like a caramel exo terra one and then the cheaper black box plastic type hides. Both are tiny but he is very happily sleeping in the grey hide this morning. I stand corrected on that one.


    ....Also...the half logs...we are thinking of keeping them in but moving the black hide into its place and the temp inside the log isn't very high compared to the outside of the hide.....
    Yes, snakes will use large hides if that's all they have ("any port in a storm") but they do prefer to squish in to feel safe from anything sneaking in after them. Think of human designer homes promoted by fancy magazines, & do the opposite for snakes. Meaning: No big dramatic doorways -just one modest entrance please; No high ceilings- we snakes like "back pressure".

    Half logs are fine just as "furniture" but they're not secure feeling (way too open) so they don't count as "hides". Don't worry, you'll be thinking like a snake before long. Hopefully it won't be at dinner time though.

    BTW, I have corn snakes & always have- other rat snakes too- they are all my thing.
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    Re: Where to place the probe

    Ok thanks. I read her comments and it was super helpful. We took out the chunky branch on the ground as it was blocking the heat to the cold side. Will leave now and see how the temp does over the next couple of days.
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    Re: Where to place the probe

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    Ok thanks. I read her comments and it was super helpful. We took out the chunky branch on the ground as it was blocking the heat to the cold side. Will leave now and see how the temp does over the next couple of days.
    Again, I'm no DHP expert, but, as I understand it, chunky things are exactly what you should be putting into your enclosure. At first, they may absorb heat, but once warmed up, they'll begin to radiate heat. That's what you need to raise your ambient temps. Flat rocks are especially good for this. So, more chunk, not less.
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    Re: Where to place the probe

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    Yes, snakes will use large hides if that's all they have ("any port in a storm") but they do prefer to squish in to feel safe from anything sneaking in after them. Think of human designer homes promoted by fancy magazines, & do the opposite for snakes. Meaning: No big dramatic doorways -just one modest entrance please; No high ceilings- we snakes like "back pressure".

    Half logs are fine just as "furniture" but they're not secure feeling (way too open) so they don't count as "hides". Don't worry, you'll be thinking like a snake before long. Hopefully it won't be at dinner time though.

    BTW, I have corn snakes & always have- other rat snakes too- they are all my thing.
    I had a good giggle...really was impressed by how Lomu squeezed into that hide.

    I moved around our corn snakes furniture and did a clean up and before I was finished he was having a good look at what was going on. Such a character!

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    Re: Where to place the probe

    I popped a flat rock under the lamp so that's good to go. We leaving Lomu alone now and will check the temp when changing the water over the next 2 days. He skipped his feed on Wed but that's to be expected after 2 days of arriving back home with us. Will see if he will eat next Wednesday.

    Out of interest....what us your temp in the basking area and cool side?

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    Re: Where to place the probe

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    I popped a flat rock under the lamp so that's good to go. We leaving Lomu alone now and will check the temp when changing the water over the next 2 days. He skipped his feed on Wed but that's to be expected after 2 days of arriving back home with us. Will see if he will eat next Wednesday.

    Out of interest....what us your temp in the basking area and cool side?
    When I kept a BP, I aimed for 90F and 80F (32C and 26C).
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    Re: Where to place the probe

    Thanks Homebody. The cool side is 22 at the moment. We leaving things to warm up. I also put a thick layer of coconut fibre and bark chips so that also needs to warm up. Again…for those looking to buy a BP…it takes time for the viv and branches etc to warm up. That is why one needs a week before you put a BP in its viv. No idea what we going to do if the temp doesn’t rise in the cold side…cross that bridge when we get there.

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    Re: Where to place the probe

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    Thanks Homebody. The cool side is 22 at the moment. We leaving things to warm up. I also put a thick layer of coconut fibre and bark chips so that also needs to warm up. Again…for those looking to buy a BP…it takes time for the viv and branches etc to warm up. That is why one needs a week before you put a BP in its viv. No idea what we going to do if the temp doesn’t rise in the cold side…cross that bridge when we get there.
    That's nippy. Anyway you and raise the ambient in the room? Turn up the thermostat in your house? A space heater? Just until the DHP finishes doing it's thing.
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    Re: Where to place the probe

    You should also consider putting the corn snake in the bottom enclosure and the ball python in the top one. Heat rises. Every little bit helps. Your bp needs it more than your corn does.
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    Re: Where to place the probe

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    You should also consider putting the corn snake in the bottom enclosure and the ball python in the top one. Heat rises. Every little bit helps. Your bp needs it more than your corn does.
    Excellent observation & I quite agree. Corn snakes don't do well with too much heat, & this would be safer & healthier for both.
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