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Dad does look a bit light to have a dark gene like leopard in there. I don't really see anything leaping out as such in the offspring either. But I'm not as familiar with it tbh
I think you're pretty spot on with the IDs tho.
On the BEL, there almost looks like there's a yellow stripe down the back? That could be poss enchi. Fire and Pastel will be harder to say since Lesser Mojave is already such a bright snake.
I think 307 seems a little bright for mochi. Maybe a low expression pastel as well.
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Leopard can be pretty variable. I do think it's there in some of the OS. 305, 306, 308 I'm pretty certain of, and 301, 307, 309 I'd like to see more angles to get a better idea but poss Leo as well. Leopard is not showing super obviously in your line for whatever reason, but I definitely see the side pattern going up over the dorsal to the other side, weird connections, the eyes of the alien heads moving around, and so forth. On 308 how some of the eyes go vertical so there are 4 going across the dorsal is very Leopard-like, where a typical Firefly would just get keyholes with eyes on either side or possibly one eye stretched up over the dorsal.
I agree 307 is a bit bright in the blushing, and likely has weak expression of Pastel.
Otherwise I think your ID's are spot on.
7.22 BP 1.4 corn 1.1 SD retic 0.1 hognose
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Re: Clutch identification (photoheavy)
I’m not going to lie. I’m not seeing leopard at all. I think you’re spot on with the morphs.
0.1 Leopard Pied
0.1 VPI Axanthic Het Pied
1.0 VPI Axanthic Pied
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Re: Clutch identification (photoheavy)
Originally Posted by nikkubus
Leopard can be pretty variable. I do think it's there in some of the OS. 305, 306, 308 I'm pretty certain of, and 301, 307, 309 I'd like to see more angles to get a better idea but poss Leo as well. Leopard is not showing super obviously in your line for whatever reason, but I definitely see the side pattern going up over the dorsal to the other side, weird connections, the eyes of the alien heads moving around, and so forth. On 308 how some of the eyes go vertical so there are 4 going across the dorsal is very Leopard-like, where a typical Firefly would just get keyholes with eyes on either side or possibly one eye stretched up over the dorsal.
I agree 307 is a bit bright in the blushing, and likely has weak expression of Pastel.
Otherwise I think your ID's are spot on.
Thanks for the feedback
I'm not that experienced, and to my eye 304 and 305 looks very similar. Where do you see leopard in 305, but not 304?
I'm not sure if these helps, but here are a a few more of the photos I shot of 301, 307 and 309
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I'm not seeing enough in these three that I would say they got it for sure. There are some odd spots on them that are suspect, but it could just be normal variation of side pattern.
The side I can see of 304 looks like fairly standard alien head shapes, though there aren't any eyes to see that part of the dynamic. Some pattern connects to the dorsal pattern a bit oddly, but not something strong enough to think Leopard is responsible. 305 has some really weird detached patches that don't match the shape of anything at all, some pieces where half the alien head goes up over the dorsal so it's not horizontal with the rest of it, but off at an angle, and some that are shaped like lowercase r's or upper case T's with a sort of wing. Things like this can happen in normals here and there, but there is a lot of it going on in one animal.
7.22 BP 1.4 corn 1.1 SD retic 0.1 hognose
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