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Soul Sucker x Mystic Potion clutch help
Hey guys, I recently hatched out my first ever clutch and I'm looking for some help figuring out what morphs I got! The pairing was a Soul Sucker(HGW, Lesser, Granite) to a Mystic Potion(Mystic, Mojave)
I have multiple pictures and each snake has the same number in each picture, so hopefully that helps keep track.
I was initially thinking that a few of them were Soul Sucker Mystic or Soul Sucker Mojave, but after some input from a couple people on another threat, im wondering if they're an HGW combo. Any input would be great! This was the females first time breeding, so there's no possibility of retained sperm.
I also need help with another one of my snakes. I bought him as a Sterling, but im wondering if he has an additional gene or 2 due to differences in him vs. Other pictures of sterlings I've seen. He has a lot more pattern on his sides, and his head looks way different than any pictures I've seen. If you could help me put with him too, that would be awesome!!
Pictures labeled A and B are the parents, 1-6 are the babies and 7 is the sterling.
Let me know if you want to see more pictures!
Thanks!
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Re: Soul Sucker x Mystic Potion clutch help
Originally Posted by Crg.drummer
I don't know about morphs, but your sterling is uniquely beautiful.
Last edited by Homebody; 08-13-2023 at 08:48 AM.
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I'm super confused still. Really hoping somebody that deals more with HGW has some suggestions here.
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Re: Soul Sucker x Mystic Potion clutch help
There's only one listing of a soul sucker mojave on morph market, so there's not much to compare to. But I agree, im confused as well lol
The morph market genetic calculator for some reason doesn't include Granite in the soul sucker combo, so I think some of the possible options on there are wrong because of that. And the one on World of ball pythons doesn't have mystic potion as an option lol so neither are much help.
Last edited by Crg.drummer; 08-13-2023 at 10:03 AM.
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Re: Soul Sucker x Mystic Potion clutch help
Originally Posted by Homebody
I don't know about morphs, but your sterling is uniquely beautiful.
Thanks!
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Re: Soul Sucker x Mystic Potion clutch help
Originally Posted by Crg.drummer
The morph market genetic calculator for some reason doesn't include Granite in the soul sucker combo, so I think some of the possible options on there are wrong because of that. And the one on World of ball pythons doesn't have mystic potion as an option lol so neither are much help.
This confused me so much. Why does it matter?
You know what genes are in your animals so you can just put in:
HGW Lesser Granite -x- Mystic Mojave
Sure there's some links to what may be produced...but the only real purpose of the calculator is to say what the results could be. Even then, the odds of the results may be wildly different as well.
The issue is still not many of the potential combos you hatched have been put for sale and it's difficult to say what they are. It could just be the HGW messing with the Mojave expression. Or it could be a dual sire clutch.
Last edited by Armiyana; 08-13-2023 at 11:50 AM.
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A Soul Sucker doesn't have granite in it. HGW has a high variation, which some can look sorta granite looking. One of the front runner for the morph said the granite gene "attached" to the HGW, which is not thing genetically and causes the confusion. That's why morph market lists Soul Suckers as Lesser HGW. so your real life options from that pairing are: Mojave, Mystic, Mojave HGW, Mystic HGW, Lesser/Mojave or Mystic BEL Pos HGW
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Aaaah... So the issue is the standard between MorphMarket and the listing on World of Ball Pythons. They still have Soul Sucker listed as having granite.
The issue is op may need to ask the breeder if their soul sucker actually does have granite or not.
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Re: Soul Sucker x Mystic Potion clutch help
Yeah thats my main issue, I suppose i didn't word it very well in my earlier post lol. But yeah, I keep seeing different things about them having granite or not, so im not sure which to go with.
I got her a few years ago from someone on Craigslist who didn't know much about snakes, so I can't contact the breeder unfortunately.
A few of the hatchlings have some markings that kinda look like it could be granite, but im not really sure.
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