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    red weird eyes in my super lesser

    Hi guys.
    I'm talking from Brazil, and I'm new here in this forum.
    Some days ago I had this offspring from my Lesser couple.



    But some weird happens with my baby Lucy's eyes: they are not blues!






    The light (natural, artificial, flashlight, flash, cold or hot colors lamp) has no interference in this color.

    I did some research about the subject, but didn't found a definitive answer.
    Is this a serious problem or a common mutation?
    I need to care about this?
    Can you, guys, help me?

    Thanks.

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    Silvery color with red pupils is normal and still considered blue.
    Sometimes the iris will develop more of a 'blue' colorand the pupil becomes less noticeable as red as they get older, but the pupils will always have a red cast when light is shined into them.

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    Re: red weird eyes in my super lesser

    Have I to be concerned?

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    Re: red weird eyes in my super lesser

    Quote Originally Posted by Armiyana View Post
    Silvery color with red pupils is normal and still considered blue.
    Sometimes the iris will develop more of a 'blue' colorand the pupil becomes less noticeable as red as they get older, but the pupils will always have a red cast when light is shined into them.
    There is another example here in forum?

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    Re: red weird eyes in my super lesser

    Quote Originally Posted by manoelcomar View Post
    Have I to be concerned?
    I don't see why? You're just seeing the normal blood circulation in the eye- that's what makes the red color- it's normal, when not obscured by other pigments in the eye.
    Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.
    Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

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    If you need a photo confirmation.
    This is one of my own hatchlings, BEL (mojave lesser)

    You'll also see red pupils in banana / coral glows and pieds. It's just something that happens sometimes and doesn't mean anything is wrong with them.


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    That being said....Taking a closer look at your baby on my computer and not my tiny phone screen.
    If I'm wrong, please someone pop in and correct me.
    The thing I notice about your baby in particular is that the eyes look a little 'bug eyed' to me. They seem slightly larger than normal for a ball python and there's a slight bump where the bone is shaped to make room for them. It's something that can happen when breeding super lessers or super butters. Usually, this doesn't do anything to affect the snake. Sometimes they kinda grow into them and they look less pronounced as the snake ages.
    The only thing I would watch out for is if they do seem to bulge out more over time or if the top of the head seems to swell more. Honestly though, this is not the worst that I've seen and I wouldn't have even noticed had I not decided to take a better look at the photos you posted just to make sure I didn't miss anything about the eye color. The bulge is pretty minor.
    Last edited by Armiyana; 01-14-2022 at 01:45 PM.

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    Re: red weird eyes in my super lesser

    Quote Originally Posted by Armiyana View Post
    They seem slightly larger than normal for a ball python and there's a slight bump where the bone is shaped to make room for them. It's something that can happen when breeding super lessers or super butters. Usually, this doesn't do anything to affect the snake. Sometimes they kinda grow into them and they look less pronounced as the snake ages.

    About the eyes, I already percepted this. Indeed, this baby was in the same egg that another one: one Lesser.
    Maybe this is one of other reason that the head so lesser than the ordinaries, in comparatitive with the eyes size?

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    I don 't think being a twin is the reason for it. It's just a fairly common genetic issue with super lessers.
    The babies being smaller is the most common thing seen with twins because they share the same egg. In this case they probably both had their own yolk sack and seem to have developed really well and strong.

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    Re: red weird eyes in my super lesser

    Quote Originally Posted by Armiyana View Post
    In this case they probably both had their own yolk sack and seem to have developed really well and strong.
    You are right! both had their own yolk sac.
    Nowadays I'm keeping up her development and the eyes still keep the same color: maybe after the first shed something change.

    Thanks for your help.

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