I learned something else thanks again for this. I didnt think about that... but I mean yeah it's a definite risk especially with a smaller cage maker but another thing I seen is a bad problem for consumers and good and bad for a company like AP plastics is that they have a long wait time when it comes to making cages. That's one thing I want to excel at if I get to that level, the time it takes to make which is something that needs to be more efficient for a company like AP cages.