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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
Congratulations, she's stunning, won't be too big either
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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
Gorgeous. Glad you found a boa you relate with!
Mazel Tov and wishing you a long and happy life together.
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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
Thanks guys!
I'm happy to say that her first 24 hours at home went well. She spent most of yesterday checking out her cage, basking under the heat projector, and climbing up the thermostat probe's cord. That cord was probably her favorite thing until this morning - not the three hides I bought her, not her actual basking spot, the cord. As soon as she settles in a bit more, I'm gonna have to get her some climbing structures and find a better way to anchor that thing to the wall! She seems to have since overcome her cord fixation and is now using more of her tank and thermoregulating well. I also noticed a few drops of water on her chin that seems to indicate that she found one of her water bowls.
The only time she's even gotten hissy with me so far was when I accidentally startled her out of a nap, which I can't really blame her for. I just backed off a little, watched her from a respectful distance, and left when she eventually calmed down. She's been a bit wary after that, but it could also just be her adjusting. All in all, though, I'd say it was a good first day.
0.1 Sonoran Boa sigma: "Adelita" ('19 Hypo het. leopard)
1.0 Boa imperator longicauda: "Kuzco" ('19 het. anery)
0.1 West Papuan Morelia spilota: "Pandora" ('20)
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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
I'd let her be for a bit. If temps and humidity are stable, leave her alone until she's ready to eat, and then leave her alone again after feeding unless you have to clean her tank. I'd let her be for a week or two and a couple feedings. Then you can start short and gentle handling sessions.
If I didn't mention earlier, it's a good idea to hook train boas. They love food and you do not want to get mistaken.
I can post the link to a hook training thread I have if you want.
Again, good luck with the beauty and I wouldn't sweat the hiss at all.
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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
Thanks for the seasoned advice as always, dakski.
Her temps and humidity seem stable, though I am a bit worried whether the cool side of her cage/tank is cool enough. The digital thermometer I have on that side has been reading around 77-79 degrees, but I have reason to believe it's a bit off. When my heating system was coming out of the night drop this morning, the thermometer was reading 77 degrees on the cool side, while the Herpstat probe on her basking spot (which I trust a great deal more) was reading 75 degrees (I've read a night drop to 75 is good/fine for boas; correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not sure if this is a function of differences between the probes (the digital thermometer's is covered in black plastic, the Herpstat's is not) or if there's something wiggy going on. I may try a new digital thermometer or keep an old-school mercury thermometer on the outside of her tank to monitor ambient temps in the room. In the interim, a new infrared thermometer is due to arrive soon, so maybe some surface temps will be enlightening.
The plan is to keep handling to a minimum for the first two weeks or so (outside of the necessary feeding and water changes) and to start tap training right away. The hissy fit was a function of me looking in on her through the glass of her tank - I'd be pretty startled too if I woke up to a kaiju-size face staring at me. I'm blocking three sides of her tank tomorrow with some re-purposed paper bags to help her feel more secure. If she still seems tense I'll make a blind for the front as well.
0.1 Sonoran Boa sigma: "Adelita" ('19 Hypo het. leopard)
1.0 Boa imperator longicauda: "Kuzco" ('19 het. anery)
0.1 West Papuan Morelia spilota: "Pandora" ('20)
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Really cute little boa...love her colors.
Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.
Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)
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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
Adelita's settling in well and the IR temp gun arrived tonight. The floor of the cool side was ~79 degrees, the middle zone was ~83 degrees, and her basking spot was ~86-87 degrees under the heat projector (in 86 degree night "drop" mode - I have it set to 88 degrees during the day). Based on the ambient temps in the room, it seems as though the digital thermometer is reasonably accurate. We had a bit of a heat wave by me today and the ambient temp in Adelita's room rose to around 80 degrees when the AC unit had a bit of trouble keeping up. Not that she minded- she was actually trying to climb up the digital thermometer's cord for the first time since her first day home. She definitely seems to like temps in the ranges you mentioned, dakski. Her viv is actually maintaining a relatively stable temperature gradient in that range with a humidity of 62-67%, so I'm quite happy with where things are now. I may have to keep an eye on that humidity, though.
My big debate right now is when to offer her her first meal with me. Her last meal was a live hopper mouse on 2 September, so it's getting close to feeding time for her. I've only been able to get frozen hopper mice, though, and I haven't been able to find anyone with live hoppers around me. I'm a bit worried that I'd be asking too much of her for first meal home to be her transition to f/t. I'm also not sure if I want to try and feed her Friday (her fifth day home and possibly too soon), Sunday night (after being home for a week), or Monday morning (two weeks after her last meal - a bit long for a baby boa). She seems to be settling in and possibly ready for a feeding attempt on Friday, but I'm not sure how to judge her "readiness."
0.1 Sonoran Boa sigma: "Adelita" ('19 Hypo het. leopard)
1.0 Boa imperator longicauda: "Kuzco" ('19 het. anery)
0.1 West Papuan Morelia spilota: "Pandora" ('20)
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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
She will probably take F/T. If you want to feed f/t long term, try it. Feliz ate stunned mice and switched in about 5 seconds.
Friday should be fine. If she refuses. Wait at least 4 days. I doubt she will though.
Good luck.
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Re: Adelita - 2019 Hypo Sonoran
Such a gorgeous girl! My parents used to have a normal Red-Tailed boa, and now he is about 8ft long, but he started always mistaking them for food I suppose, and every time anyone would come around he would strike and try to bite no matter what we did. So I agree with her when she says hook training is a good idea. Many blessings to you and your new baby! I hope things turn out amazing and always stay that way!
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