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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

    Thatís good then dave, hopefully he will settle down now


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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

    Toref is confusing me a bit. He's eating fine, but hides a lot. If I take him out to clean his cage (which is the only time I take him out - the breeder said not to handle much until he is older and bigger and has more confidence) he's all over the place. When I pick him up he's squirmy, but okay. He lets me gently touch him in the cage sometimes, and once I put him back, seems to realize I am not threat anymore and let me take pictures of him etc. in the tank. He will also eat in front of me happily after handling. It seems to stress him out so much though.

    Anyway, I got some good shots of him the other day.




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    Sorry to hear he is giving you fits but he sure is a beauty!

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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by cletus View Post
    Sorry to hear he is giving you fits but he sure is a beauty!
    I have faith it will all be ok. I just like to report on both challenges and successes.

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    Is he supposed to tame down enough to handle when he grows up more, according to the breeder? Seems to me that right now he's doing pretty much as was
    predicted...still too nervous for much interaction.

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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

    Katie helped me clean tanks yesterday because I have been under the weather and exhausted. I've been doing the bare minimum the past few days, but a bunch of tanks needed full cleanings. She really hasn't seen Toref much, and I needed to clean his tank, so I decided I'd show him to her.

    I know where he's been hiding lately (in his vertical log at the bottom) and started taking things out of his tank. It's about 10X easier to get him out once most of the hiding spots, or all, are removed. He then runs around like a maniac for a minute (although it's getting less) and then lets me pick him up. He's also been getting better with my hand in the tank. Progress.

    Anyway, I take everything else out and see hit tail poking out the bottom of the log. I touch it. Nothing. I touch it again. Nothing. Totally stiff!

    Katie asks what's wrong and I say, "well, he's either dead or totally messing with me and freezing."

    Jerk was frozen solid trying to trick me. I lifted the log and he stared at me motionless. I laughed. I put my hand near him and he did his normal puffing routine and then I left it there for a bit. He lets me touch his tail and back legs gently now.

    He then ran like a maniac for 10-15 seconds, sufficiently freaked out Katie, who was already freaked out that he might have died - although I was really being facetious, and then let me pick him up and put him in a moist holding container as he is shedding again.

    Bogertophis - They are known as a fast and darty species, even for a monitor (arboreal - think Carpet Python, and young, versus adult Boa), but as he gets bigger should chill some. Also with work he should chill more. At least at size, it will be easier to grab him and not lose him or scare him too much. The funny thing is, once out, and then put back, or put in a container, he's fine. It's like he knows, okay, I guess he isn't going to hurt me. I'll just be cool now.

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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

    My heart sank reading that Dave, thank goodness everything was ok in the end


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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

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    My heart sank reading that Dave, thank goodness everything was ok in the end


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    Sorry Rich, and everyone else who has the same reaction. I was scared too! I try to impart some emotion in my posts, but I apologize if I went too far. He's a smart bugger.

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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by dakski View Post
    Sorry Rich, and everyone else who has the same reaction. I was scared too! I try to impart some emotion in my posts, but I apologize if I went too far. He's a smart bugger.
    That's ok, I've done that so many times to my snakes when I've stroked them and they have moved even shook them and still not moved, my heart sinks then too, lol
    Just glad all was well and he was just tricking you

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    Re: Toref/Torefet: Varanus Tristis Orientalis/Freckled Tree Monitor

    I have great news. Toref and I had our first good handling/bonding session today. It was in his tank. I had taken out all his logs to clean and he let me scoop him up and keep him on my hand for several minutes.

    It appears he does not like being restrained, but I have to if he's going to jet! He used to jump off my arm and onto the floor! Now he seems pretty chill.

    I let him smell me for a bit and he seemed to recognize that it was me and I wasn't a threat to him. He hissed a couple of times, but gave up when I wasn't phased.

    Below are some pictures and a video.

    I am so happy he's doing well and starting to chill.













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