Karmas or Spider Karmas [Pic Heavy]

[anneplath]

Hey guys, haven't posted in a good long while! I come to you with a question. I had a clutch of six eggs from a lesser bee x phantom pairing. Three eggs were karmas [lesser phantoms]. But all of them are possible spider lesser phantoms. I just took some pics this morning under blacklight. I'm posting them below for your perusal. If anyone has experience with picking out spider karmas, I'd be forever grateful, lol.

[JodanOrNoDan]

I can pull some old pics at home and do a comparison, but the best way to determine spider is going to be to try to make it wobble. I have plenty of super mojaves, and super mojave spiders but I have never seen a karma spider but it may appear the same as a super mojave under the light. I have a 4 week old non-spider karma I can take a look at under blacklight if you can't tell by wobble. Just flip them upside down.

[anneplath]

On WOB, there's one similar patterned to karma 3. Also, just did a flip test and karma 1 and karma 2 self righted normally. Karma 3 took a few seconds and wobbled a bit once he did.

[JodanOrNoDan]

On WOB, there's one similar patterned to karma 3. Also, just did a flip test and karma 1 and karma 2 self righted normally. Karma 3 took a few seconds and wobbled a bit once he did.

If that is the case the pattern changes are the same for the super mojave spider and the karma spider, meaning if you can see small teardrops without the blacklight it is a spider.

one of my super mojave spiders

[anneplath]

I just grabbed some shots of karma 3. I can see some pattern on it. What do you think?

[JodanOrNoDan]

In those pics, it appears spider. Do the others have any yellow? My non-spider karma has very visible yellow on the spine. Almost like a highway.

[anneplath]

Here's karma 1


And here's karma 2