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Quarantine for hogs?
I've read all about qt for balls, but I haven't seen anything on hognoses (I'm sure it's out there, but I've got some different questions). Is it like the same as bps? I see 60-90days, what would you recommend? I know it's different room, paper towel substrate, tend to them last, etc. etc. I've also seen people do fecals, how necessary is that? I'm almost 100% getting myself a female hog next month at the super show in LA (Finally, I can't wait!), and the qt tank is to be all set-up by next week or so. It's a 10gal with paper towels, 2 simple hides, a little plastic water dish, and just a UTH (No heat lamp. I'm just waiting on the thermostat). Does that all sound ok? I'll also pretreat the enclosure with pam, just to be safe. (And I'll get some new feeding tongs just for her, I'll try not to mix any supplies. They'll be very very thoroughly washed if I have to though!)
Thanks guys! I know quarantine is talked about pretty often on here, so I apologize for adding to the hundreds of qt threads.
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Same rules applies when it comes to QT, if you are buying a hognose under 50 grams I will recommend a 5 gallons tank with aspen or eco earth, they need to be able to dig and bury themselves in the substrate. I would skip the hides if you allow them do do what they naturally do (burying themselves) they will not use them.
Those guys are very small and people often do not realize are small they are, 2 things to make sure of
Make sure the animal feeds on uncented
Make sure they animal has ate on F/T at least 5 to 10 times
Taking 1 or 2 F/T does not make it an animal that is switch and the last thing you want to do is try to find and than drive to a store twice a week for pinkies or fuzzies.
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Re: Quarantine for hogs?
Originally Posted by Deborah
Same rules applies when it comes to QT, if you are buying a hognose under 50 grams I will recommend a 5 gallons tank with aspen or eco earth, they need to be able to dig and bury themselves in the substrate. I would skip the hides if you allow them do do what they naturally do (burying themselves) they will not use them.
Those guys are very small and people often do not realize are small they are, 2 things to make sure of
Make sure the animal feeds on uncented
Make sure they animal has ate on F/T at least 5 to 10 times
Taking 1 or 2 F/T does not make it an animal that is switch and the last thing you want to do is try to find and than drive to a store twice a week for pinkies or fuzzies.
Thanks Deb! So, If she's under 50 it's ok to use actual substrate? Above should I use paper towel or substrate? I'll make sure to ask the breeder plenty of questions (I'm getting a list lol)
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Re: Quarantine for hogs?
Originally Posted by GpBp
Thanks Deb! So, If she's under 50 it's ok to use actual substrate? Above should I use paper towel or substrate? I'll make sure to ask the breeder plenty of questions (I'm getting a list lol)
So long you pre-treat the enclosure with PAM which you should do with any new animal, you can use any substrate but preferably one that will allow your hog to do what they would do in the wild, as I mention they like to dig (hence why their nose is like this to better help them dig around) and bury themselves, paper towel make a poor choice when it comes to this species.
I use eco earth or aspen and pre-treat my enclosure 24 hours prior to getting a new animal.
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Re: Quarantine for hogs?
Originally Posted by GpBp
I've also seen people do fecals, how necessary is that?
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Re: Quarantine for hogs?
I have never done a fecal on any incoming animal, the only reason I would do so is if I would suspect something that is off.
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I 100% agree with Deb.
And despite Deb being my go-to for all things hognose, I do offer a hide, and Cosmo does use it. He's my only snake that I use Aspen for, so he's got the option to burrow, and he does burrow all the time. However, he will often be in his hide, partially burried in his substrate.
I originally put it in just as decor, but since he uses it all the time I leave it in.
That being said, I have a little over a year of expwrience with one hognose. Deb has years of experience, keeps and breeds hognose. So, in Deb I trust. I just think Cosmo may be an exception to the rule.
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