low white pieds

[OldState81]

I'm wondering if low white pieds tend to produce low white offspring and vice versa?

[Trisnake]

The amount of pigmentation is 100% random, low white parents can produce high white offspring and vise versa and there is no predictability in it. However, there are some codominant/incomplete dominant genes that can affect pied coloration in ways that are very predictable; ex. Lesser/butter pieds are all white (same for champagne pieds), spider pieds are always extremely high white (some completely white), cinnamon/black pastel pieds tend to be very high white, and enchi pieds are almost always low white.

To my knowledge there are no recessive genes that affect pied in this manner.

[OldState81]

Thanks for the great response Trisnake.

[piedlover79]

Here's an example of siblings one high white one low white that came from a mother that was 90% white.

[Trisnake]

Thanks for the great response Trisnake.

Of course!

The mystery of it is part of what makes pied clutches so fun; no one snake is alike and you never know what you're gonna get until they crawl out of the egg. I personally am a huge fan of low to mid white pieds, and I'm a sucker for enchi combos, so I think an enchi pied is in my future Would be interesting to see how black pastel and enchi react in the same pied animal-- I personally think the black pastel's tendency to increase white and decrease color would dominate how the animal is pigmented, and leave us with a very high white slightly oranger looking black pastel pied. Ah, just some thoughts, but it's late and I'm derailing the thread with my rambling...

[OldState81]

Those are 2 very nice looking pieds pied lover. I like the mid range whites the best. I like the normal coloration too in btw the white of the snake.

I am interested in producing hypo pieds. I am about to purchase a female breeder hypo from a person close to where I live. Ill get her ready for next year but I also need a male pied of course. You guys think a 2016 male would most likely be ready to breed her next season or that pushing it?

Thanks everyone for good responses.

[Sjm5161]

I was actually talking to someone at a reptile expo about this today. He had his pied mates there and their new ofspring. The parents were both pretty low white. Like 20%. But all of the hatchling were around 70-80%

[piedlover79]

Thanks! I think we are all suckers for the mid-white pieds particularly the ones that have even pattern.

Ended up with one of those too in this clutch. Heehee. I would have held this one back if he had been a she.

[Trisnake]

Thanks! I think we are all suckers for the mid-white pieds particularly the ones that have even pattern.

Ended up with one of those too in this clutch. Heehee. I would have held this one back if he had been a she.

Oh he's gorgeous, I love the yellow eyelets in his saddles!

[piedlover79]

Thank you!