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    I'm with Deb and the others on this one, I don't think regulation is the answer. From a logistical/enforcement standpoint alone, strict regulation of animal breeding would be a resource intensive nightmare. Even if you only regulate breeding via requiring a permit/license to breed, you're going to have to constantly be sweeping for unlicensed breeders to confiscate their animals to enforce it. Otherwise, what's going to stop people from just breeding without the license/permit and selling anyway? Especially if they're selling at competitive rates to licensed breeders or on a black market...

    The only other alternative would be sterilizing all animals at the time of sale unless you're selling to someone already holding a license to breed, but that's putting an incredible burden of cost on breeders, not to mention isn't actually a feasible option when it comes to reptiles and other animals that aren't easily or safely sterilized.

    It basically comes down to the problem you already see with licensed dog breeding right now. Sure, the ethical breeders are registered and have licenses and meet certain standards of animal welfare as set by their jurisdiction, but that doesn't stop the backyard breeder from offering their "purebred" puppies for a steal on Craigslist. The only way to stop that would be to send an agent in to confiscate the animals, and doing that from every unregulated/unlicensed person would be impossible just from a man-hours standpoint.

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    Re: Am I NUTS or do you feel the same?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nellasaur View Post
    I'm with Deb and the others on this one, I don't think regulation is the answer. From a logistical/enforcement standpoint alone, strict regulation of animal breeding would be a resource intensive nightmare. Even if you only regulate breeding via requiring a permit/license to breed, you're going to have to constantly be sweeping for unlicensed breeders to confiscate their animals to enforce it. Otherwise, what's going to stop people from just breeding without the license/permit and selling anyway? Especially if they're selling at competitive rates to licensed breeders or on a black market...

    The only other alternative would be sterilizing all animals at the time of sale unless you're selling to someone already holding a license to breed, but that's putting an incredible burden of cost on breeders, not to mention isn't actually a feasible option when it comes to reptiles and other animals that aren't easily or safely sterilized.

    It basically comes down to the problem you already see with licensed dog breeding right now. Sure, the ethical breeders are registered and have licenses and meet certain standards of animal welfare as set by their jurisdiction, but that doesn't stop the backyard breeder from offering their "purebred" puppies for a steal on Craigslist. The only way to stop that would be to send an agent in to confiscate the animals, and doing that from every unregulated/unlicensed person would be impossible just from a man-hours standpoint.
    I can appreciate this argument. It would really be a lot easier if everyone was responsible enough to educate themselves in basic animal care before they decide they're going to have 10+ animals to breed... To bad that will never happen.


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    Re: Am I NUTS or do you feel the same?

    Quote Originally Posted by kxr View Post
    I can appreciate this argument. It would really be a lot easier if everyone was responsible enough to educate themselves in basic animal care before they decide they're going to have 10+ animals to breed... To bad that will never happen.


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    Nope it wil never happen.. I don't discuss politics anymore because for one I can't swollow the stupidity of some people these days and two I need to keep some kind of human contact
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    Bless the MODS of this page but im done helping idiots hahhahaha..3 Clueless people buying Snakes without a clue of what day it is within the last 15 minutes is enough to teach me a leason
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