Normal python? inclusion

[Laurielovespets]

I'm an animal rescue. I picked up two 1 month old Pythons. The breeder told me they were spider morphs. I've had snake enthusiasts who also told me they were spider morphs. Someone showed a picture of the snakes to a vet and was told it's a normal. My worry is if they are normal and they have a wobble, should I worry about body inclusion disease? I turned both snakes, 3 months old now, upside down and they both righted themselves pretty quickly. One of the babies had a hard time shedding just this past time. They both eat just fine, are growing, and show no other signs of illness. One of the babies flip over when it's in water soaking, but then is able to stick his head up for air. He has the wobbles more so than the other baby. Should I be worried? Because I am worried. I don't see an option to post a picture.

[PitOnTheProwl]

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Post-Pictures

[Trisnake]

They'll be fine regardless of if they wobble considerably or not, it doesn't affect their quality of life in any way. It just makes them a bit quirky

As far as body inclusion disease, if they're eating fine, acting fine, and shedding fine, I'd say they're good. Just bump the humidity with a light misting and add some lightly dampened spagnum moss to a hide to aid in shedding, if the snake is having a difficult time. If it's a perpetual problem you may need to tweak your husbandry.

So relax, and enjoy your new family members! Also, welcome to the forum. There are many care sheets and set up guides out here, along with other useful articles about handling, feeding, etc. You should definitely reference them, and PLEASE ask questions if you have them; there are many awesome and experienced keepers who frequent this forum and are more than willing to share their knowledge with you. Happy herping!

[Chloe]

Spider ball pythons have a wobble that is genetic. Some have wobbles that are worse than others. I prefer to call it "airplane-ing". I have a bumblebee that does weird things, he looks like a jet when he moves. He does loopty-loops. He occasionally mistrikes when I'm feeding him even though it's right in front of him. He's eating, pooping and shedding, so I've never worried. He wants to come out to say hello occasionally.


So, how do you tell if a spider ball python has IBD? I'm not a snake vet, but I would guess there would be weight loss, loss of appetite, maybe limpness. Limpness like, not holding onto you at all when you pick it up. Like Trisnake said

From what I noticed, even a spider balls airplane-ing is somewhat coordinated and attentive.

[Chloe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQweGMjaIlY

This isn't my snake, but it's like that. Loopty loops.

Bad signs: Not eating, more than one bad shed, regurgitation, limpness, staring directly up while moving.