Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 3,437

1 members and 3,436 guests
Most users ever online was 6,337, 01-24-2020 at 04:30 AM.

» Today's Birthdays

» Stats

Members: 75,096
Threads: 248,538
Posts: 2,568,732
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, eamorris97
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 26
  1. #1
    BPnet Veteran bait4snake's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-07-2004
    Location
    Modesto, CA
    Posts
    488
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts

    Making the cleanest black eyed leucistic

    I was able to pick up a 0.1 Fire Spinner and am now in search of a 1.0 fire pinstripe as a mate. Has anyone been working with super fires crossed with pinstripes and/or spiders to reduce the spots for a cleaner white black eyed leucistic line?

    I've seen one pic of a spider super fire that looked pretty clean. And I've seen the pinstripe latte BEL (super mocha) clean up the pattern of the latte BEL. And of course the white wedding (spied)...

    Anyway, just curious if anyone has been tinkering with this.

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to bait4snake For This Useful Post:

    Ballpythonguy92 (01-21-2017)

  3. #2
    BPnet Veteran Meerna's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-02-2006
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    762
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 218 Times in 149 Posts
    Images: 8
    I haven't yet, but I have my 0.1 Fire and once I get my racks in a couple months I'll be searching for a mate as well and starting my breeding project with them in a couple years. I hope you get an answer from someone that has played around with this, I could use the info as well ^_^
    1.0 Normal (Emrys)
    0.1 Fire (Calypso)
    0.1 Pied (Tessa)
    0.1 Albino Kingsnake (Nienna)
    2.1 Cats (Suki, Daisuke, and Kyo)
    0.0.2 Leopard Geckos (Chi and Pixel)

  4. #3
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    10-17-2008
    Posts
    906
    Thanks
    103
    Thanked 722 Times in 382 Posts
    Given the tendency for Pin to act as a pattern retainer I would be inclined to think that a SuperFire Pin will display high orange

    Flip side, the Spider tendency to imbalance pigment could help promote a high white super

    From what I have seen, Pastel seems to result in higher white supers. And I suspect that Cinny/BlkPastel will make higher white supers. Additoinally, this past season I hatched out 1.1 BlkELs from FireFly x BellyFly, one is pure white and the other has a singe, lentil-sized pale yellow patch. Without breeding them out I cannot say what genes each is carrying but it is possible that one or both have YB so it is possible that YB will also act to promote high-white BlkELs
    actagggcagtgatatcctagcattgatggtacatggcaaattaacctcatgat

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to asplundii For This Useful Post:

    JodanOrNoDan (04-07-2017)

  6. #4
    BPnet Veteran Trisnake's Avatar
    Join Date
    08-20-2016
    Location
    North of Houston, TX
    Posts
    551
    Thanks
    378
    Thanked 290 Times in 209 Posts
    Images: 1
    It would definitely be interesting to see what pin does to the super fire. Pastel definitely consistently makes cleaner higher white black eyed lucy's, but that's all I know for sure. I don't think anyone has suggested lesser/butter but I would imagine it would increase white as well.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Trisnake For This Useful Post:

    Jmaine (01-25-2017)

  8. #5
    BPnet Veteran bait4snake's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-07-2004
    Location
    Modesto, CA
    Posts
    488
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts
    Hmm... maybe a male firefly or superfly is in order 😎

  9. #6
    BPnet Veteran Meerna's Avatar
    Join Date
    12-02-2006
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    762
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 218 Times in 149 Posts
    Images: 8
    http://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rept...-pythons/45704

    Found a couple great Fireflys on Morph Market. Wish I had the money right now to snatch one up, hopefully I can find one like it in a month or two.
    1.0 Normal (Emrys)
    0.1 Fire (Calypso)
    0.1 Pied (Tessa)
    0.1 Albino Kingsnake (Nienna)
    2.1 Cats (Suki, Daisuke, and Kyo)
    0.0.2 Leopard Geckos (Chi and Pixel)

  10. #7
    BPnet Veteran bait4snake's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-07-2004
    Location
    Modesto, CA
    Posts
    488
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts
    Yeah, I'll be checking them out.

    Right now I have a 1.0 Pastel Lesser and 0.1 Pastel Butter, hopefully I'll get some bright white BEL out of those. I also have a 0.1 Mojave Spider for him too. I'm excited to see what kinds of white snakes I'll be getting.

  11. #8
    Sometimes It Hurts... PitOnTheProwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    11-21-2010
    Location
    San Antonio, TX
    Posts
    12,050
    Thanks
    6,313
    Thanked 6,985 Times in 4,274 Posts
    Images: 3

    Re: Making the cleanest black eyed leucistic

    Quote Originally Posted by bait4snake View Post
    Yeah, I'll be checking them out.

    Right now I have a 1.0 Pastel Lesser and 0.1 Pastel Butter, hopefully I'll get some bright white BEL out of those.

    The only problem I see here is not knowing what is what in the outcome. I mean if you get a BEL then you know it is Butter and Lesser but if you get anything else you might have problems at the time of sale. Some people don't care but others will want to know for sure if its a Butter or Lesser gene.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to PitOnTheProwl For This Useful Post:

    JodanOrNoDan (04-07-2017)

  13. #9
    BPnet Veteran bait4snake's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-07-2004
    Location
    Modesto, CA
    Posts
    488
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts
    Not sure if the same could work with a super fire, but here's a super mocha bel with pinstripe.

    http://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rept...-pythons/27815

  14. #10
    Registered User Ballpythonguy92's Avatar
    Join Date
    11-20-2016
    Posts
    393
    Thanks
    214
    Thanked 115 Times in 91 Posts

    Re: Making the cleanest black eyed leucistic

    Nice pick ups I'm currently going to pick up a female het Russo on Sunday from Henry p

    retro gaming pokemon for gbc/gba p.s. I've never played go nor shall i !!!!!

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1