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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
Originally Posted by Panic2336
Just spoke to backwaterreptiles and yes he's wild caught, that solves the mistery of the mites they also said to feed him rats, now should I try adult rats ? You seen his picture he's about 3ft not very thick should I ?
I feed rats. If that's what they had him eating I would keep it going.
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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
But adult rats ? Or baby rats ? I'm afraid he might regurgitate if the meal is too big.
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Feed the correct size. If that's a weaned rat, get that. If it's a small rat, get that.
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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
Originally Posted by Panic2336
Just spoke to backwaterreptiles and yes he's wild caught, that solves the mistery of the mites they also said to feed him rats, now should I try adult rats ? You seen his picture he's about 3ft not very thick should I ?
Did they say if they treat the snakes on arrival or have them treated before delivery?
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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
They're answer was that they don't keep records of they're snakes which tell me that they did not treat him for parasites. That's my first and last time doing business with backwaterreptiles.com I'm very disappointed.
Last edited by Panic2336; 11-21-2016 at 06:25 PM.
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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
Originally Posted by KMG
Did they say if they treat the snakes on arrival or have them treated before delivery?
BW doesn't treat anything, they get imported WC snakes and sell them off as fast as they can before they die. Their facility is probably where the snake picked up the mites as well.
OP before ordering another snake online read this first:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...g-Herps-Online
I also hope you have access to a good exotic specialist vet close by, your snake is going to need it.
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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
Originally Posted by Panic2336
PS: will see if he gets any better over the course of time if I notice he deteriorates then I'll take him to a exotic vet. Keep finger cross everybody, I don't wish what I'm going thru not even to my worst enemy even tho I have no enemies.
Do not wait to take him to a vet, or to get an appropriate setup.
ETB's are not for novice snake keepers, especially not untreated wild caught specimens. Given that you don't seem to have a lot of experience with snakes, you definitely need the help of an expert on this. Without being experienced, you may not even really know what to look for. Having the vet weigh him may also be a helpful baseline to see whether his condition is improving or not. On a healthy animal, mites aren't a huge deal, but on a dehydrated, malnourished animal, the additional stress of mites can put them over the top and be a death sentence. That he ate for you before, but not now is something I would be really concerned about as I mentioned before, especially if he's already very skinny. That could indicate that he was strong enough before, but his condition has degraded since then. A freshly wild caught snake being docile could mean that you got lucky with his temperament, or it could mean that he's too weak to exhibit his natural temperament. By the time there's something more obviously wrong to an untrained eye, you could already be past the point of no return so you should not wait until then.
Exo terras aren't ideal even for a healthy snake, let alone one that's having multiple health issues (dehydration, not feeding, mites). The screen tops let humidity out the top. Heat lamps are also not good for arboreal snakes, as they tend to dry them out. Even if you have the right humidity in some parts of the exo terra, there may be other parts and/or the effect of being under the heat lamp making it much drier. Buy a PVC enclosure with a radiant heat panel and thermostat right away.
Wild caughts don't always make it even when they come in in perfect health, and into the hands of an experienced keeper. I don't mean to be alarmist, but the more I've read, the worse it looks and there is definite cause for urgent concern here, and the situation should be treated accordingly.
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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
Originally Posted by hhw
A freshly wild caught snake being docile could mean that you got lucky with his temperament, or it could mean that he's too weak to exhibit his natural temperament.
I was thinking the same thing about being weak. I hope that is not the case but from what I know about wild caught GTP and ETB they are not usually little sweethearts. I was first thinking because of the snakes temperament that it could not be a wild caught....I should have asked. Good call hhw.
OP, I think the vet is a really good idea as is biting the bullet and making the proper cage happen now.
I also had no clue BW did business like that I will stay away from them. Ive never used them and now I know I never will.
I wish you luck and Im here to help when needed.
Last edited by KMG; 11-22-2016 at 12:12 AM.
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Re: Emerald tree boa help!!
Dear Sir,
My name is Ryan Richards. I'm the manager of Captive Breeding EIRL, Iquitos, Peru. Please contact me at boasperu@gmail.com for possible help.
Sincerely,
Ryan
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