Best First Rack system to buy?

[Mangiapane85]

Hey guys, just wanting to get some opinions on which rack system I should go with. This started as just wanting A snake, but I am now completely obsessed and want to pursue breeding. So, I was looking at reptile basics website. They seem very nice and decently priced, but I am unsure of which one to go with. I was looking at the shoebox rack, but I want something that the hatchlings or hold backs or whatever could grow into a little bit. I don't want just a hatchling sized rack is what I'm saying I guess. What do you guys think?


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[AKA Dave]

There's a fine line between future proofing and immediate needs with racks. How large are your snakes currently? Are you dealing with hatchlings now? When is your first breeding season going to be? These are just a few things to consider. My go to racks are 28qt tub racks. I find that sub adults and males can be housed in them quite well. You could use them for young snakes too if you clutter them up, which is what I do. Some keepers offer hides, some don't. It's personal taste I suppose. I tend to have hides for them. As an aside, the 28qt tub in my experience has been great for females after laying if they don't go back on feed. I put them in there and they are eating again in short order. They like the confined space and feel comfortable, despite seeming cramped. For larger females I use 41qt tubs. Of course these tubs are for my snakes that are not in display cages. Hope that helps.

Dave

[Neal]

I'll point you in the direction of the rack systems I like.

http://cserpents.com/C_Serpents_Hot_...K_SYSTEMS.html

I've met Chris in person at some of the local shows years ago and he's an overall great person to deal with. For racks I would only buy from him, but that's purely my preference as others may prefer different places. One thing I don't really like about ReptileBasics is I can seemingly never get somebody on the phone. The ONLY way I ever am able to reach them is by email and to me that throws me off doing business with a lot of people.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

A good rack for that is C-Serpent V18 racks you can keep hatchling up to 600 grams and than move them to their permanent adult enclosure.

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[Mangiapane85]

A good rack for that is C-Serpent V18 racks you can keep hatchling up to 600 grams and than move them to their permanent adult enclosure.

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And what would a "permanent adult enclosure be? Like a 41 qt tub? I like plastic. The snakes respond great to tubs.


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[Mangiapane85]

There's a fine line between future proofing and immediate needs with racks. How large are your snakes currently? Are you dealing with hatchlings now? When is your first breeding season going to be? These are just a few things to consider. My go to racks are 28qt tub racks. I find that sub adults and males can be housed in them quite well. You could use them for young snakes too if you clutter them up, which is what I do. Some keepers offer hides, some don't. It's personal taste I suppose. I tend to have hides for them. As an aside, the 28qt tub in my experience has been great for females after laying if they don't go back on feed. I put them in there and they are eating again in short order. They like the confined space and feel comfortable, despite seeming cramped. For larger females I use 41qt tubs. Of course these tubs are for my snakes that are not in display cages. Hope that helps.

Dave

Thank you for your reply Dave. I currently only have 4 hatchlings. If that's what 3 month olds are considered. They will all be bred together though and I definitely intend on adding to the collection more and more. So they are all 2016 babies. So I'm shooting for around two years I will be ready... do you guys like anything from reptile basics?


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[Mangiapane85]

My main purpose of getting the rack is two fold really. To get them all adjusted to it and also, so that my fiancée doesn't continue to complain about so many tubs spread out all over the place. Lol!


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[blk02ssmonte]

I built mine, when that filled I added to it, and now I have my ARS rack. I found a good used one. It is bigger than I need but I have plenty of room to grow.

[Mangiapane85]

I'll point you in the direction of the rack systems I like.

http://cserpents.com/C_Serpents_Hot_...K_SYSTEMS.html

I've met Chris in person at some of the local shows years ago and he's an overall great person to deal with. For racks I would only buy from him, but that's purely my preference as others may prefer different places. One thing I don't really like about ReptileBasics is I can seemingly never get somebody on the phone. The ONLY way I ever am able to reach them is by email and to me that throws me off doing business with a lot of people.

Thank you for the link. I am looking into it. And yes, I completely agree with your mentality. Email sucks. Voice to voice is the best option. When I first started collecting, which was only like 6 weeks ago lol, I tried calling BHB reptiles. They NEVER answer. ... he's probably making a YouTube video or sumthin lol. .. but I'm glad they didn't because then I was introduced to Garrick Demeyer. ... best customer service ever. That guy will just spew his knowledge. I've talked to him for an hour on the phone on a couple of occasions, and I'm just a small timer beginner. He earned a customer for life.


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[Stewart_Reptiles]

And what would a "permanent adult enclosure be? Like a 41 qt tub? I like plastic. The snakes respond great to tubs.


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Depends on the animal Males and Females up to 2000 grams generally go in 32 quarts tubs, females over 2000 grams go in 41 quarts or V70 tubs