Scaleless Corn Snakes

[Griz/Rosco B.Pythons]

How Much Do They Cost. Are They Co-Dom, Dominant, Recessive, Etc?

[Spiritserpents]

It's a recessive. Price is usually a few hundred or more, depending on the morph. And they are, one and all, hybrids.

[Griz/Rosco B.Pythons]

What do you mean hybrid? Do you know any websites that sell them

[Spiritserpents]

I mean that they are not pure corn snakes. The scaless gene was introduced from another species of rat snake. Don Soderberg at south mountain reptiles has them for sale.

[Griz/Rosco B.Pythons]

Thanks

[piedlover79]

I'm thinking about getting a pair of scaleless cornsnake morphs but finding very little info on the demand for them. So far most of the forums out there view them very negatively but those chats also appear to be five years old. It also seems to more be the idea that they are rat snake hybrids that put people off almost as much as the scalelessness. I wouldnt be producing them for money, more the love of the hobby but I would like to know if there is enough demand to find homes for them once produced. I have a new scaleless ratsnake that I love, but the allure of the colorful scaleless corn calls to me.

Thoughts?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

I'm thinking about getting a pair of scaleless cornsnake morphs but finding very little info on the demand for them. So far most of the forums out there view them very negatively but those chats also appear to be five years old. It also seems to more be the idea that they are rat snake hybrids that put people off almost as much as the scalelessness. I wouldnt be producing them for money, more the love of the hobby but I would like to know if there is enough demand to find homes for them once produced. I have a new scaleless ratsnake that I love, but the allure of the colorful scaleless corn calls to me.

Thoughts?

For a lot of puris they have 2 things going against them

A/ Not pure, even if very diluted by now they are still hybrid, which people disagree with. While I have no issue with hybrids my issue is with the ethic of selling hybrids. Because they are very diluted it does not make them pure and therefore should be labelled as such.

B/ People have issue with scaleless animals

Aside compare to some European breeders we are behind it seems, in France for example you have no problem finding Albino Scaleless, Anery Scaleless, Scaless Tessera etc here not so much and the demand seem greater even if facing the same issue regarding the purity.

[piedlover79]

The pair I'm looking at are morphs het for one other morph. So despite 'purity' you feel it would be a fine project? I'm so new to the cornsnake world that I don't know all the 'taboos'. Since they have thier belly scales I feel they are not 'inhumane'. My rat snake guy is thriving!

[Ba11er]

i dont know if i will ever own one but i was hoping to find some at the Sacramento, CA reptile show. I have not held one yet but i imagine it might feel like a rosy boa. I would be interested in how they get out of the egg, do they still form an egg tooth?

[piedlover79]

They do not feel like a sand boa. my scaless rat snake feels like a...um....part of the male anatomy...