Pastel x Phantom Pin ( Plus dual Sire Butter)

[bustyndecka]

So.. We bred our female Pastel(Arwen) with 2 different males; a Phantom Pin(Bofur) and a Butter(Bombur). The majority of locks recorded were with Bofur, but there were plenty with Bombur. She laid 8 eggs, and they've all hatched out now. It looked like the father is Bofur, but then there are a couple anomalies.. It looks like one or two could be fathered by Bombur. We Are having a tough time figuring out what some are, especially with the phantom gene.. Please Help us figure out what morphs they are!



This is the whole clutch. I'd like to know if we have any phantoms, be it pastel phantom or just phantoms. Thanks!!
I'll post individual pictures and lable them, if I can.


These are the normal looking ones, and the baby that is from the different father Bombur (butter)


Baby 1
It looks like a pastel, it has very high pinks and oranges! Let me know what you think.

Baby 2
Also a high pink and orange pastel, Let me know what you think!

Baby 3
This one has me thrown through a loop, because its so different from the previous two. It has pretty much no orange, and all yellow. Plus it looks like its missing pattern. Let me know what you think!

Baby 4
Normal or phantom? I've seen other pictures of phantoms, and I just can't tell the difference.. We have three normal looking babies, but one looks different than the others. So let me know what you think!
Baby 5
This is the one that looks different from the others. To me this one looks like a normal normal, the other two look like something more. Of course, I could be wrong, so tell me what you think!
Baby 6
The other normal looking one. Tell me what you think!

Baby 7
This is the baby that doesn't match the rest of them, the one with Bombur (Butter) as the father. Butter or pastel butter? Tell me what you think!


Baby 8

Lemon Blast! Is there a way to tell if it's a Lemon Blast Phantom? Please let me know!


Thanks in advance for taking your time to help me out with this, I know its a long post.

[Kibbleswhites]

After they shed it may be easier to guess. If it was my clutch, I would suspect them to be: (using your top picture)
top left - phantom
top middle - pastel
top right - pastel phantom
middle left - normal
middle - lemon blast
middle right - pastel
bottom middle - lesser phantom
bottom right - pastel lesser

[bustyndecka]

Thanks so much for helping us out! We were suspecting a similar thing, but we weren't sure!