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Help anyone know what this is?
My pied developed some marks on him and am not sure what they are. He was pure white in this area now has these on him after a shed. Is this something bad?
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Re: Help anyone know what this is?
Any blood spilled on the floor of the enclosure from his last meal? What type of enclosure is he in and what are the husbandry numbers? Any protrusions or sharp objects in the enclosure? What cleaning agents do you use to spot clean or generally clean the enclosure? Can you post a picture of the whole enclosure?
Stay in peace and not pieces.
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Re: Help anyone know what this is?
Originally Posted by Albert Clark
Any blood spilled on the floor of the enclosure from his last meal? What type of enclosure is he in and what are the husbandry numbers? Any protrusions or sharp objects in the enclosure? What cleaning agents do you use to spot clean or generally clean the enclosure? Can you post a picture of the whole enclosure?
I only had him for 2 weeks. He has not eaten, tried twice killed the mouse but never eaten them. He is in a 15qt tub rack system, belly heat aet at 89 degrees. No sharp objects tub, no sign of blood found in enclosure. Have not cleaned the tub yet.
I have ordered reptichip to help with humidity. I think it is low, don't have anything to measure the humidity.
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I own a Pied. My answer below is based on my belief from your picture that the scales have changed color between sheds, and the scales are normal in morphology etc etc, nothing more.
While I have NOT seen this color come in after a shed against the white, I HAVE over time observed black scales to come in. Typically it's 1-3 scales clustered together. "First" shed they appear grey, it makes you think there's dirt on them, then after 2nd shed they come in completely black. On a rare occasion a few scales have turned from white to black in ONE shed.
I talked to other owners of Pieds at times, and many have reported the same observations I have, ie white scales to black.
While Pied genetics are proven, what is not understood at all in most animals, including humans, is epigenetics. Epigenetics is at work here with my Pied, and yours as well IMO.
I suspect you are observing the same thing I have observed, just a different color.
Last edited by viper69; 05-20-2016 at 07:49 PM.
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Re: Help anyone know what this is?
It looks like he has scraped his back while shedding?
I'd check the inside of his hides for rough spots etc.
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When I blow up the picture, it almost looks like stuck shed. Something is definitely going on. That's not a scale change. imo.
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When I blow up the picture, it almost looks like stuck shed. Something is definitely going on. That's not a scale change. Yes, the more I study the pictures I'm almost positive. That snake needs some care quick. There's a big piece of shed in one. A good shed comes off like a rolled nylon. I hope a piece isn't cutting off circulation on the tail.
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Re: Help anyone know what this is?
Originally Posted by Sonny1318
When I blow up the picture, it almost looks like stuck shed. Something is definitely going on. That's not a scale change. Yes, the more I study the pictures I'm almost positive. That snake needs some care quick. There's a big piece of shed in one. A good shed comes off like a rolled nylon. I hope a piece isn't cutting off circulation on the tail.
How'd you blow up the picture? I couldn't do so, just clicking on the pic a bit only made the image marginally larger. I'm new to using this forum.
OH never mind, sorry about that. I figured it out. Yeah, SCRAP my first comment. The scales' surface are not normal looking, ie shiny/smooth. This is not color change as I have observed in my Pied. Sorry !!
Last edited by viper69; 05-20-2016 at 09:11 PM.
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I have a nearly all white pied and now and then she has a bad shed in the winter and she gets three or four scales that look exactly like that. I've never seen her with as much discoloration as your guy, but it's the same thing. In my case I crank up the humidity during the next shed and it goes away. I've never tried to rub the discoloration off, I always just wait.
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Re: Help anyone know what this is?
Looks like scrap from something ruff. Not accusing just wanted to ask if you pulled of some of the stuck shed. I hope the little guy heals soon.
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