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    Head wobble, spine kink, and...

    Hey everyone! I'm new here I've been learning a lot about the morphs that catch my eye and are in my price range. One thing that's more obscured it seems, is the health problems that genetics bring. I've read about head wobble in spiders. Also that there is spine kink in some morphs (I don't know which ones). Can anyone help me out here about explaining which morphs have what types of issues associated with them and what does that particular health issue do to the ball python? Thank you all so very much for any insight.
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    From wat i kno

    Supposedly my ball python is a spider pastel so i was told. And ahe has no wobble problems and bo kinks in her spine. She as healthy as could be. And she eats today lol

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    Re: Head wobble, spine kink, and...

    If you have a bumblebee it does wobble they ALL do to a degree from hardly noticeable to train wreck. Usually when it is mild and people have limited experience they think there snake does not wobble but they do which is not a big deal.

    Mutations prone to spine deformities are super Cinny or Super Black Pastel and Caramel Albino

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    My Black Widow - Spider/Black Pastel/Pastel - has just a little tiny bit of wobble. It shows in comparison to my Pastel, or I wouldn't have known it was there. His head shakes a little when it's feeding time and he's excited, and he's more prone to go exploring upside down along the top of his cage and fall over than my other BP's, though he's not so bad that he doesn't know how to right himself if he notices something else. I've heard that there are some other morphs that have wobble, as well - and after a quick google search, this is what I found. I can't vouch for the accuracy of it, personally.

    Edit - Whoops, JodanOrNoDan already posted the link!
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    My lesser bee has such little wobble you wouldn't be able to tell there was a defect if it weren't for the fact that she will often miss the rat on a strike. Her solution to this was... to stop striking. I'm not kidding, I don't even wiggle the rat for her any more, I just set it on her half-log and she casually saunters over and consumes. At some point she figured out the rat was already dead and not going anywhere, so why bother with all the hard work?

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    Re: From wat i kno

    Quote Originally Posted by smokeyfb View Post
    Supposedly my ball python is a spider pastel so i was told. And ahe has no wobble problems and bo kinks in her spine. She as healthy as could be. And she eats today lol
    There is no pastel in your spider. A bee is a lot brighter.


    My male spider has very little wobble, my female strikes dead on BUT wobbles if food is not involved.
    MY male bee on the other hand is one I prefer to feed F/T or pre killed just because I never know with him.....
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    Re: Head wobble, spine kink, and...

    Bumblebees! That's one of my top three that caught my eye Deborah! I'll be steering in another direction for the morph I purchase I believe. Do you happen to know if all queen bees have head wobble as well?

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    Re: Head wobble, spine kink, and...

    Thank you to smokeyfb, Deborah, JodanOrNoDan, Caspian, and Lizardlicks for sharing your info and helping me out! Any of you know if head wobble or spine kink is apparent soon after birth or is it something that gets worse with age?

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    Thanks pitontheprowl! For the fresh killed feeder you give your balls, how do you kill them? Is there some common way everyone goes about when feeding their snake freshly killed?

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