Is my new tub setup too cramped?

[highlands]

I just got the last odds and ends for my first tub set up and I placed the hides and bowl in the tub to have a look how everything fits. It seems prettttttty tight, this is a 6" water bowl and the hides are the small hides from Reptile Basics. I am looking at snakes between 150-250 grams and was recommended to start with a 15 qt tub. Is this going to bed too small and cramped for a snake of that size?

[bcr229]

It's fine. My only suggestion would be to replace the water bowl with one of the melamine cat bowls from the Dollar Store as they're undumpable. My ball pythons dump the RB crocks pretty regularly.

[DTK]

It will be fine, you can keep BP in 15qt until they are close to 1000g without any problems. After that it seems a little small

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Nope it's perfect, cramped is a good thing.

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[Zincubus]

I'd put quite a few branches and fake foliage in there as well ..

[highlands]

I'd put quite a few branches and fake foliage in there as well ..

Thanks for the suggestion, I will definitely be setting it up a little different, this was just to test fit and see if the hides and water bowl would fit.

[CantHelpIt]

It will be fine, you can keep BP in 15qt until they are close to 1000g without any problems. After that it seems a little small

1000 grams??
I understand ball pythons like tight spaces but thats not even 1 and half sq ft..

Perfectly fine for a 200 gram snake and can grow some in it but I certainly would not say 1000 grams

[DTK]

1000 grams??
I understand ball pythons like tight spaces but thats not even 1 and half sq ft..

Perfectly fine for a 200 gram snake and can grow some in it but I certainly would not say 1000 grams

It obviously depends on the animal, but I have had girls Ive moved up at the 600g mark, and have done fine. But on the other hand I have had ones at 1000g that I tried to move up, and all the sudden they will refuse to eat. Put them in a small tub and bam! Nice feeding response again. Its nice to have options. I have 6qt, 15qt, 34, 41, so you can play with sizes for each snake. But I normally will try to move them out of the 15qt between 600-800g when they start to outgrow a medium reptile basics hide, as thats the largest that fits in those tubs. But if they don't like it I just move them back down with no hide and they do fine. Its all about just knowing your animals and what stresses them.

[highlands]

Will the small reptile basics hides become too small pretty quickly?

[Lizardlicks]

Yeah, I moved mine up at about 500-600 g. They were out growing their hides and the next size up didn't fit well, so new tubs and hide together! It will take several months for them to get up tho the size though, so you should be fine for a while.